It's always interesting to see the way people spin things. I remember waaaay back to Jimmy Carter who was accused, rightly so, of trying to micromanage everything. Now you want Obama to do the same? Since it is a no win situation in that case let me propose a different viewpoint.
Obama was not on the committee handling the bailout plan. He did talk to his advisors, and his peers. He made the leadership decision to delegate, which is something a good executive knows how to do, so the job would get done. When he was asked, by the president, to come to DC he came.
If you want to read this as McCain 'did the right thing' and Obama didn't that is certainly your right - but it doesn't make you correct. The bottom line is does the job get done - with out unnecessary drama. Something I have learned through my 50 years is that people remain calmer when routines are followed. McCain chose a course of action that created more drama and was an unnecessary disruption of a routine. With so much anxiety about this crisis around the world I don't see how that is a good thing - and that opinion is my right.
What I'm saying is that - as Obama said in the debate - although $18 billion dollars is an unimaginably large sum of money for most people to imagine, there ARE sums larger than it: the current corporate welfare going on with Wall Street, for example, dwarfs that figure, as does the running total for the Iraq war. The point is that McCain is willing to endlessly waste money on things which HE deems important.....and doesn't see the irony in turning around and attempting to score points by pretending to be a fiscal conservative regarding a bevy of much-less-expensive things which, even taken all together, don't add up to nearly the sums he's already been a vocal advocate of wasting.
Absolutely, let's cut out wasteful government spending, as much as possible. Sure, great. Why not start with that most-wasteful of boondoggles, which has not only cost us hundreds of billions so far (and counting), but thousands of lives, many times that in wounded and maimed, international respect, and ability to deal with other threats: the Iraq war. When John McCain starts talking about "pork," if he started there, I might be a little more tempted to believe that his words aren't anything other than a wedge issue he thinks he can use to pound on Democrats.
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Harry Reid is the only one who looks stupid, imo.
Coming from Nevada, I can certainly agree with this.
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It's always interesting to see the way people spin things. I remember waaaay back to Jimmy Carter who was accused, rightly so, of trying to micromanage everything. Now you want Obama to do the same? Since it is a no win situation in that case let me propose a different viewpoint.
Obama was not on the committee handling the bailout plan. He did talk to his advisors, and his peers. He made the leadership decision to delegate, which is something a good executive knows how to do, so the job would get done. When he was asked, by the president, to come to DC he came.
If you want to read this as McCain 'did the right thing' and Obama didn't that is certainly your right - but it doesn't make you correct. The bottom line is does the job get done - with out unnecessary drama. Something I have learned through my 50 years is that people remain calmer when routines are followed. McCain chose a course of action that created more drama and was an unnecessary disruption of a routine. With so much anxiety about this crisis around the world I don't see how that is a good thing - and that opinion is my right.
Unh-hunh - from the McCain website.
No, that's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is that - as Obama said in the debate - although $18 billion dollars is an unimaginably large sum of money for most people to imagine, there ARE sums larger than it: the current corporate welfare going on with Wall Street, for example, dwarfs that figure, as does the running total for the Iraq war. The point is that McCain is willing to endlessly waste money on things which HE deems important.....and doesn't see the irony in turning around and attempting to score points by pretending to be a fiscal conservative regarding a bevy of much-less-expensive things which, even taken all together, don't add up to nearly the sums he's already been a vocal advocate of wasting.
Absolutely, let's cut out wasteful government spending, as much as possible. Sure, great. Why not start with that most-wasteful of boondoggles, which has not only cost us hundreds of billions so far (and counting), but thousands of lives, many times that in wounded and maimed, international respect, and ability to deal with other threats: the Iraq war. When John McCain starts talking about "pork," if he started there, I might be a little more tempted to believe that his words aren't anything other than a wedge issue he thinks he can use to pound on Democrats.
My second post to you on this matter.
Edited 9/28/2008 2:57 pm ET by chillychillychilly
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