McCain sure lost the debate

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McCain sure lost the debate
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Fri, 09-26-2008 - 10:43pm

Commentators pointing out how McCain never looked at Obama, seemed to be looking for a fight, kept saying Obama doesn't understand - then Obama looked at McCain, looked at camera and spoke to people at home, and showed McCain over and over that he DOES understand.


The bracelet - loved how Obama retorted "I have my own bracelet",

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Registered: 09-16-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 7:24pm

Ok then maybe we should just let McCain debate himself - at least that way he has to win!

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/johnmccain/ig/John-McCain-Cartoons/McCain-Debate.-Ut-.htm

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Registered: 09-09-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 7:30pm
Day After Debate Reviews: "Why Obama Won"
by Christopher HassSaturday, September 27, 2008 at 12:15 PM


This morning brought a new round of local and national reviews of last night's debate:


Iowa Sioux City Journal Why Obama won



Obama’s primary task was to show Americans he has the intelligence and mastery of issues that would trump his alleged inexperience. Tonight, he did so convincingly. Obama presented the sort of policy details his critics have long accused him of lacking. Whereas McCain’s legendary testiness leaked through, Obama remained calm and cool and seemed more presidential.


Wisconsin Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Clear Differences



From our view, edge to Obama.


The Arizona Republic Economy hot topic in close first debate



But Obama held his own and at one point hammered McCain hard on the start of the Iraq war, hoping to inflict damage to McCain's foreign-policy reputation.


Pennsylvania – McClatchy, Centre Daily Times McCain misstates some facts in debate on foreign policy



McCain made the most notable misstatements and stumbled over the names of the leaders of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose name he couldn't pronounce, and of Pakistan, referring to the latter as "Qadari" instead of Asif Ali Zardari. McCain incorrectly asserted that former Gen. Pervez Musharraf rescued Pakistan from being a "failed state" when he seized power in a 1999 coup.


Maine Portland Press Herald – "Obama much more clear about his ideas"



For Anna Halloran, 18, a musical theater major who is a registered unenrolled voter, U.S. Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois was the clear winner over U.S. Sen. John McCain of Arizona. "He was much more well-spoken than McCain and he was much more clear about his ideas," Halloran said. "There were all these deer-in-the-headlights moments for McCain."


CNN Political Ticker Fact Check: Does McCain almost always agree with Bush? Verdict: True


TIME Obama Wins Debate On Tactics and Strategies



Toward the very end of tonight's debate—which was quite a good one, I believe—John McCain laid out his rationale in this election in just a few words: Senator Obama, he said, lacks the "knowledge and experience to be President." The presidency will turn on whether the American people agree with McCain on that—but on this night, Obama emerged as a candidate who was at least as knowledgeable, judicious and unflappable as McCain on foreign policy ... and more knowledgeable, and better suited to deal with the economic crisis and domestic problems the country faces.


Washington Post McCain's High Horse Meets Obama's High-Mindedness



John McCain wore the more presidential tie -- that much can be said for him -- but Barack Obama displayed the more presidential temperament, or the kind of demeanor people presumably would want in a president…neither made an outrageous blunder, although McCain did misidentify the new president of Pakistan. More critically, he came across as condescending and even rude to his opponent...


Boston Globe Good night for McCain, better one for Obama



John McCain last night tried hard to make the first presidential debate a test of Barack Obama's fitness for office. McCain succeeded in his framing of the test - but Obama passed it…But with the majority of the debate focused on foreign policy - where McCain's superiority was assumed, and Obama's vulnerability was greatest - the lack of a clear winner benefits Obama more than McCain… Obama had more to gain, and he did.


New York Times – "Obama dominated the economic portion of the debate"



Mr. Obama dominated the economic portion of the debate, arguing that the Wall Street disaster was the fault of the Bush administration’s anti-regulation, pro-corporate culture. He called for a major overhaul of the financial regulatory system. Mr. McCain stuck to his talking points, railing against greed and corruption. He showed little sign that he understood the fundamental failures in government illuminated by the market crisis…He clung to his argument that cutting Congressional earmarks — which amount to about $18 billion a year — and reducing waste and abuse would solve most of the country’s economic problems and allow him to continue President Bush’s catastrophic tax cuts.


Boston Globe – "Obama showed a grander vision"



Obama was assured and a bit cerebral, showing a command of policy but also reaching for a grander vision of an America that could be admired and respected again in the world.

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Registered: 07-04-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 7:32pm
I just thought it would be more stately if McCain could've debated without NEGATIVE name calling. Surely you don't think that he is so perfect that Obama couldn't come up with a single negative thing to say about him.
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Registered: 09-09-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 7:39pm

IMO, Obama missed at least two good points to make against McCain.


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Registered: 09-09-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 7:43pm
Not true!
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:34pm
Unlike you appear to do, I don't depend on my opinion to "make me right," it's the facts that prove me right.
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Registered: 09-16-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:41pm
yeah, riiiiiigggggghhhhhtttt - what ever gets you through the night. I don't want to burst your bubble but lots of opinions in that post - as my daughter would say 'whatever'.
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 12:59am

"Personally, I think it takes more than experience campaigning and writing books about yourself to qualify for the "Big Chair.""

>>> You mean the kind of experience McCain had which led him to declare that we had to attack Iraq because it had WMD?

I don’t believe that it was “experience” as much as it was “evidence” that let the President (Bush & Clinton), the Congress (Dems and Repubs), the UNSC, and our allies to believe that Saddam had WMDs…a belief perpetuated by Saddam himself.

I should also mention that Obama said he might have taken a different position on invading Iraq if he had seen the US intelligence. Obviously he hadn’t, so he was taking a position based on political expediency rather than an assessment of the best available evidence. Not very good judgment if you ask me.

>>> Or that we should have a big fat tax cut while we wage a war (no other nation in the history of the world has tried this to my knowledge by the way)?

Here’s an interesting bit of hypocrisy…Obama is calling for “a tax cut for 95% of Americans” AND proposing $800 BILLION in new spending WHILE advocating an escalation of the war in Afghanistan…and YOU support him. LOL! FISA…Faith-based initiatives…tax cuts during war time…Obama is sounding more like Bush all the time.

>>> Or how about McCain's "experience" which led him to put inexperienced Palin his 72 year old heartbeat away from the Presidency?

Well, there’s little point in proving once again that Palin has at least as much experience as Obama, and obviously more practical experience, but what I will do is point out that, unlike Obama, McCain was smart enough to put the lesser experienced candidate on the bottom of the ticket.

>>> Or how about his "experience" which led him to erratically "suspend" (even though he didn't) his campaign so he could rush down to Washington to break up a bipartisan effort to save our financial system?

It’s really a question of character and integrity isn’t it? With the country facing a crisis McCain dropped everything and headed to Washington to address the problem while Obama, once again, voted “present” and said “call me if you need me.” Very Presidential indeed.

There’s also the the “duh” factor to consider. Both of these men have an expectation of being elected President and inheriting the economy and the long-term effects of this “bail out” package. Patriotism aside, it seems like good judgment to want to be involved in the crafting of the “package” you’re going to have to deal with as President. McCain exercised that good judgment while Obama, again, exercised poor judgment.

>>> Give me a break. McCain and Bush have bad judgment. Obama has good judgment.

Obama has exercised poor judgment at every turn and is usually running to catch up with McCain.

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 1:02am

Don't hold your breath ;)


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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 1:05am
Eh?

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