McCain sure lost the debate

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McCain sure lost the debate
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Fri, 09-26-2008 - 10:43pm

Commentators pointing out how McCain never looked at Obama, seemed to be looking for a fight, kept saying Obama doesn't understand - then Obama looked at McCain, looked at camera and spoke to people at home, and showed McCain over and over that he DOES understand.


The bracelet - loved how Obama retorted "I have my own bracelet",

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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 6:58pm

>>> I hate to disappoint you, but she has been raised to look carefully at what is going on in the world - probably knows more than most of her peers - so yes she would tend towards the liberal ideology.

Aside from the fact that I don't know your daughter (at least I don't think I do), or particularly care what her beliefs are...why on earth would I be disappointed in her choice of ideology? However, if it were true that she looked "carefully" or knows "more than her peers," it seems doubtful that she would have chosen a liberal ideology without a lot of pushing on the parental front. But to each his/her own.

>>> Luckily she has been quite busy making sure all of her many friends are not only registered to vote but are active in local campaigns. Her brother has also been active in his college town and wanted to volunteer this summer to travel with the Obama campaign. Needless to say they were thrilled when I finally left Johnny's camp and came over to the light!

Oh, you know how silly kids can be...thinking they can change the world when they haven't got a clue. But I think there are meetings that can help you get off the kool-aid and back on a more conservative footing. Once you're "ok," then you can help your kids escape from the Obamacult. ; )

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Registered: 09-25-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 7:06pm

Reality.

It's REALITY that we object to folks like yourself tearing asunder.

I frankly think it would be infinitely easier to give Hillary Clinton a hickey on the nose, live on the evening news, than to make you understand what facts are. That's why people object - not because you're "tearing asunder" anything resembling facts, but because you're threatening to cause a rip in the space-time continuum with the sheer overpowering mediocrity of your "argument." We're trying to save the galaxy, man. We're doing it for the children.


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Registered: 09-16-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 7:20pm
Yes we are quite the social group - makes it so hard to live with the conservative paranoia! But I digress.
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Registered: 09-16-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 7:23pm
It's the dust! (The Golden Compass)
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 8:48pm

>>> It's REALITY that we object to folks like yourself tearing asunder.

If you kids had the slightest grasp on reality we wouldn't need to tear your arguments asunder. ; )

>>> I frankly think it would be infinitely easier to give Hillary Clinton a hickey on the nose,

Ewwwwwwwwww...wish you would have kept that picture to yourself and your sadder, lonelier nights.

>>> than to make you understand what facts are.

I think you'd have to take a few classes to help you distinguish between a "fact" and the "propaganda" you so desperately cling to, before trying to make others understand what you so clearly don't understand. LOL!

>>> That's why people object - not because you're "tearing asunder" anything resembling facts, but because you're threatening to cause a rip in the space-time continuum with the sheer overpowering mediocrity of your "argument."

Of course we're not trying to tear asunder "anything resembling facts"...we tearing asunder liberal arguments. There are no facts in liberal arguments. Just take a look at any of your posts to prove that maxim. LOL!

>>> We're trying to save the galaxy, man. We're doing it for the children.

Are those the same children you're fighting for the right to abort? ; )

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 3:46am

((Pulease! McCain talked about the past too, he brought up Ronald Reagan, and VietNam.))

And Alexander the Great...lol.

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Registered: 03-09-2001
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 2:28pm
IMO, McCain lost what little credibility he had left with me, especially after choosing his totally unqualified running mate for VP. :O He acted like a cantankerous old man, testy and disrespectful, IMO. Just his behavior alone, let alone his body language, told me volumes about the man. I'd hate to see him, with his big chip on his shoulder, representing our country around the world. I don't trust people with big egos who like to push other people around and disrespect them. This is what I saw during the debate. I don't want him leading our country, and certainly not his running mate. Take us back to the dark ages for women, anyone?! BARF! I thought Obama handled himself very well. As someone said, he had class, acting with dignity in his responses. He was "Presidential" in his bearing, words and attitude. On the other hand McCain sounded like a sour old man, trying to rest on old laurels and the past, and just repeating the same old, same old. I am looking forward to the Thursday debate between the VP candidates. I want to see Biden show up the ignorance of Palin and her unsuitability to be the VP, and horror of horrors, the President should McCain become incapacitated. I can't wait. If she chickens out, there is just no credibility at all left in the Republican Party, IMO. They will be a total laughingstock.


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Mon, 09-29-2008 - 11:49pm
Or maybe it just goes to show that the Republicans have been wrong SOOO often over the past 8 years, that both candidates have moved a little left of the powers that be (or were, we hope!)


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Registered: 09-08-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 11:57pm

Back to the REAL issue. McCain is incompetent and so is his VP. Sensible Americans know not to vote for them.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/09/30/america/NA-POL-US-Elections-Analysis.php

Analysis: McCain hits political dead end

The Associated PressPublished: September 30, 2008


WASHINGTON: Republican John McCain has maneuvered himself into a political dead end and has five weeks to find his way out.

Last Wednesday, McCain suspended his presidential campaign to insert himself into a $700 billion effort to rescue America's crumbling financial structure. In so doing, he tied himself far more tightly to the bill than did his Democratic opponent, Barack Obama.

Then, as the bailout plan appeared ready for passage Monday in the House of Representatives, McCain bragged that he was an action-oriented Teddy Roosevelt Republican who did not sit on the sidelines at a moment of crisis.

The implication: that he played a critical role in building bipartisan support for the unprecedented bailout.

"I went to Washington last week to make sure that the taxpayers of Ohio and across this great country were not left footing the bill for mistakes made on Wall Street and in Washington," McCain said at a campaign rally in swing-state Ohio.

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Both he and Obama had insisted the plan originally proposed by the Bush administration be strengthened with greater oversight and regulation.

Within hours, however, the measure died in the House mainly at the hands of McCain's own Republicans.

Initially, McCain went silent, choosing instead to send his chief economic adviser out with a statement that blamed Obama, claiming that the first-term Illinois senator — who would be the country's first black president — had put his political ambitions ahead of the good of the country.

"This bill failed because Barack Obama and the Democrats put politics ahead of country," McCain senior policy adviser Doug Holtz-Eakin said in a statement.

It wasn't long, however, before McCain told reporters in Iowa: "Now is not the time to fix the blame, it's time to fix the problem."

All in all, McCain might have been better served by staying out of the mess and above the fray.

If Congress' impasse leads to a credit crisis, "it's not going to be good for McCain," said veteran Republican consultant John Feehery.

Obama had predicted trouble last week when he said the four-term Arizona senator was wrongly inserting red-hot presidential politics into a critical bailout plan even as the package was finding little support among American voters.

As the plan failed Monday, the Dow Jones Industrial Average fell nearly 780 points, the largest one-day point drop ever. Credit markets, whose turmoil helped feed the stock market's deep anxiety, froze up further with the growing belief that the country is headed into a spreading credit and economic crisis.

Stunned traders on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange watched on TV screens as the House voted down the plan, and they saw stock prices tumbling on their monitors.

After the House defeated the bailout, Obama — campaigning in swing-state Colorado — declared McCain had "fought against commonsense regulations for decades, he's called for less regulation 20 times just this year, and he said in a recent interview that he thought deregulation has actually helped grow our economy."

"Senator, what economy are you talking about?" Obama asked.

Sensing Obama's advantage, spokesman Bill Burton piled it on:

"This is a moment of national crisis, and today's inaction in Congress as well as the angry and hyper-partisan statement released by the McCain campaign are exactly why the American people are disgusted with Washington."

McCain has been routinely wrong-footed on the slumping U.S. economy throughout the campaign, starting from last year when he said he was not as up on that subject as he would like to be.

Polls have consistently shown voters place greater trust in Obama to pull the country out of a financial crisis that has not been matched since the Great Depression of the 1930s.

McCain — apparently obsessed with those facts — gambled last Wednesday by declaring he had suspended campaigning to bring his considerable bipartisan credentials to bear in congressional negotiations with the Bush administration. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson sent the enormous bailout package to Congress 11 days ago and said passage was urgent.

The measure went down 228-205, with more than two-thirds of Republicans and 40 percent of Democrats opposed.

Befitting the history being made on Capitol Hill, legislative leaders matched their rhetoric to the occasion.

"The legislation may have failed; the crisis is still with us," said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat. "What happened today cannot stand."

Republicans blamed Pelosi's scathing speech near the close of the debate — which attacked President George W. Bush's economic policies and a "right-wing ideology of anything goes, no supervision, no discipline, no regulation" — for the vote's failure.

"We could have gotten there today had it not been for the partisan speech that the speaker gave on the floor of the House," said Minority Leader John Boehner, an Ohio Republican

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Tue, 09-30-2008 - 12:22am
Back to the REAL issue. Obama is incompetent and so is his VP. Sensible Americans know not to vote for them. LOL!

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