McCain sure lost the debate

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-06-2008
McCain sure lost the debate
173
Fri, 09-26-2008 - 10:43pm

Commentators pointing out how McCain never looked at Obama, seemed to be looking for a fight, kept saying Obama doesn't understand - then Obama looked at McCain, looked at camera and spoke to people at home, and showed McCain over and over that he DOES understand.


The bracelet - loved how Obama retorted "I have my own bracelet",

Pages

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-15-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 2:41pm

I really don't know whether they're legitmate or not, but they are simply bloggers, like we are.

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-25-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 2:47pm

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means"

-- Inigo Montoya, Swordfighter.

To paraphrase ol' Inigo - I do not think many of your links mean what you think they mean. ;o)


iVillage Member
Registered: 08-28-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 2:56pm
Pittsburg
iVillage Member
Registered: 09-16-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:03pm
Pittsburgh - are you serious? Yes I live my life according to what the Pittsburgh Tribune says - may as well stick with my backwater paper if Pittsburgh is setting the standard now - LOL
iVillage Member
Registered: 01-18-2006
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:03pm

<< I really don't know whether they're legitmate or not, but they are simply bloggers, like we are.

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-25-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:05pm
Again...Bush has no voting powers in the Senate. Yes he did vote with Bush on the war...so did MOST democratic senators....and the surge worked. McCain was right on that one.


Are you kidding? Obama had it down perfectly last night when he said "John, you like to pretend like the war started in 2007. You talk about the surge. The war started in 2003, and at the time when the war started, you said it was going to be quick and easy. You said we knew where the weapons of mass destruction were. You were wrong. You said that we were going to be greeted as liberators. You were wrong. You said that there was no history of violence between Shiite and Sunni. And you were wrong."

And he's exactly right. John McCain was on TV less than 24 hours after 9/11 saying that we ought to think about invading Iraq....he echoed Cheney's "greeted as liberators" line. He has supported every action regarding the Iraq war from the very beginning. So it's not particularly noteworthy that finally ONE of those continuing tactics he supported turned out well.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-12-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:05pm
He votes against help for them and votes against military pay raises.
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-28-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:10pm
Chicago Tribune
Advantage: experience

September 27, 2008


Friday night in Oxford, Miss., moderator Jim Lehrer tried to force the men who would be president to confront how a costly bailout of America's credit markets will constrain their grand plans for the next four years. That's likely to be the shadow lingering over official Washington for much if not all of someone's first term in the White House.

If you saw the debate, you didn't see Barack Obama or John McCain hit that question out of the park. You saw, instead, maddening exercises in small-ball. This nation's debt is fast approaching $9.8 trillion—and any bailout likely will, in the short run, push that number into (gulp) the low 14 digits. You didn't hear anybody acknowledge that Friday night.

Instead, Obama initially responded by listing areas from energy to education to infrastructure where he'd devote new spending, eventually acknowledging that he'd have to delay some of those expenditures. McCain proposed a freeze on federal spending outside defense, veterans' care and entitlements—a collective so massive that, when coupled with mandatory debt payments, wouldn't leave much to freeze. Obama and McCain have five weeks to develop better answers. We suggest they get cracking.

As the debate shifted to national security issues, McCain demonstrated why many voters see this as a strong area for him. He's been involved for decades in deciding whether the U.S. engages militarily in hot spots such as Somalia, Lebanon and Bosnia—and it shows. His cautious words about the careful use of power indirectly addressed the fear of some Americans that he'd be a trigger-happy president. Similarly, Obama's pledge to add troops in Afghanistan and his forceful language on terrorist breeding grounds in Pakistan addressed the fear of other Americans that he'd be a weak commander in chief.




On Iraq, Obama spoke repeatedly about his opposition to initiating that war. But he didn't directly respond to McCain's key points—that a surge-enabled victory in Iraq will leave this country with a stable ally in a bad neighborhood, and that the next president has to decide not whether to enter Iraq but how to leave in a way that best serves America. Obama gamely noted that he had chosen Sen. Joe Biden, a specialist in foreign affairs, as his vice presidential candidate.

The bulk of Friday night's debate took place on the turf McCain knows best: foreign affairs and military endeavors. That showed. Obama spoke capably on one topic after another; McCain, who has traveled to numerous crisis locales and joined in more foreign policy debates, spoke with more fluency and experience.

As one TV talking head said afterward, McCain spent the night on offense; Obama found himself playing more defense. The debate that almost didn't happen was a serious—and decorous—affair. Over 90 minutes, though, Americans who've been following the campaign didn't hear much that McCain and Obama haven't said, and said, before.

Given the swing of poll numbers against him in recent days, McCain had to make the better showing in the Mississippi night. By some small measure, he did.






.




iVillage Member
Registered: 07-15-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:24pm
iVillage Member
Registered: 09-25-2008
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 3:29pm

Wait....wait....you're KIDDING.

A newspaper owned and operated by Richard Mellon Scaife....thought John McCain won last night's debate?

Wow. Who could have foreseen THAT?


Pages