what a JOKE

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Registered: 06-16-2007
what a JOKE
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Sat, 09-27-2008 - 5:32am

Please tell me that there is somebody on this board that believes, as I do, that McCain and Obama are one in the same.


Obama said throughout the whole debate, "I agree with McCain..."


MCain said throughout the whole debate, "I don't agree with Obama, but ultimately, yes, I agree."


Is anyone REALLY falling for it?  Does anyone REALLY think that things will be so dramatically different in this country whether McCain or Obama is president?  Really.


I will not be voting for either of them.


From day one, I have tried to encourage whoever I could to explore another option: someone who would actually affect Change while maintaining our rights as individuals.


Pretty much no one I know personally and no one with whom I've dialogued online has given that a chance.


I believe we, as the people, have Failed Terribly.  We could have motivated to make real change; we, as a people, chose not to.

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Registered: 08-20-2008
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:28am

"Obama said throughout the whole debate, "I agree with McCain...""

And he also said throughout the debate, here is where we differ.

Obama is honest in pointing out the similarities and differences. McCain will just say anything to win, and that includes not acknowledging when he and Obama have a similar position.

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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:30am
I does not help to be patronizing. I have a general idea of the system, and what I may not know, I am capable of looking up. I would still appreciate an answer to the question. How do you believe the election is decided, and by whom, if the votes cast are not counted?
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Registered: 06-16-2007
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:32am

I was trying to avoid bursting everyone's bubble, but I had to say it.

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Registered: 06-16-2007
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:42am

I am NOT being patronizing.

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Registered: 07-05-2006
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:50am

Even though I live state which has always voted Republican, there is a chance this year that it could turn Democrat.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:53am

There is a strong likelihood that there will still be a Demorat majority in congress. Combining a Democrat president with a democrat congress always triggers a Washington spending spree. If you think we have economic problems now, just wait and see what kinds of problems we'll see with bigger government and bigger spending. Right now we have big spending President Bush combined with a big spending congress and look where we are! Obama wants to ad 5 BILLION more in NEW SPENDING - without anyone in congress powerful enough to stop him. Heaven help us if he wins.

Do you think it's interesting that the Democrats today are siding with the president on this bail-out and the Republicans aren't?

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Registered: 12-29-2005
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 11:55am
Good for you! That's exactly what I think this election is going to do! I'm in Minnesota and I'm pretty sure we're blue, but even if we were red, you'll still see me at the polling booth. I'm not going to sit on my butt, fold my arms and say that my vote doesn't count! That's not how my momma raised me ;)
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Registered: 03-26-2003
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 12:12pm
So who do you believe gets to decide?
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Registered: 03-25-2007
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 12:17pm

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Registered: 04-04-2003
In reply to: kalielu
Sat, 09-27-2008 - 12:19pm

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As a bystander who will also be effected by what happens in the US (economically and regarding international issues) it's not necessarily the candidates that would scare the crap out of me so much as the general situation right now. It's a difficult time and I don't think the problems will be easily solved even with a genius us at the helm.


Personally, I would prefer Obama's more conciliatory and thoughtful approach (and wide understanding of the history and underlying issues among the various nations). The bush/McCain style of the silent treatment towards problem nations on the foreign affairs front has not been working (I think it's best to look your enemies in the eye....as much as possible if you really want to know what makes them tick). As for the economy (and this is not my area of expertise) I'm less sure. McCain traditionally has been more lassez-faire in regards to regulation and his penchant for trickle down economics (which I also think hasn't been working) seems like more of the same in that regard.