"Is Your Vote Safe?"

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"Is Your Vote Safe?"
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Sun, 09-28-2008 - 9:01pm
Transcript from Ring of Fire on Air America Radio

    Bobby: "There are about 30 scams the Republicans are deliberately using, particularly in the swing states to get Democratic voters off the rolls. These scams originate in the so-called Help America Vote Act which was passed after the Florida debacle in the year 2000. It was originally suggested by Democrats and Republicans but it was passed by a Republican congress with a Republican senate and a Republican president. And instead of reforming what happened in Florida it basically institutionalized all the problems that happened in Florida. And institutionalized a series of impediments that make it very difficult for Democrats to register, for Democrats to vote and then for Democrats to have their vote counted.

    "One of these requirements under HAVA is called "the perfect match" and what that does is little known but it is devastating. A quarter of the voters in Colorado have just been removed from the rolls because of this - just this one scam. And what it does is they use a computer system to compare your registration application to all other government records of you in the state. So they'll look at your social security records, your motor vehicle records and any time you've had any interaction with the government and if there is any information on your voter registration that is different than the information on another government record that they find they remove you from the voting rolls.


 "For example, if I registered as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and yet my motor vehicle license said Robert Frances Kennedy Jr. I'd be removed from the rolls. If your initial is different, if you leave an initial out, if you leave a "Jr." out, if you leave a hyphen out in your name. And what they've done is a study in New York that said 80% of the errors are errors that were done by state clerks who are taking down this information. And particularly immigrant communities that people tend to vote Democratic, people have names … spell Muhammad with an "o" instead of a "u" (crosstalk)


    Pap: "Are the Democrats Suing to Stop This?"


    Bobby: "No, the Democrats are doing nothing to stop it. In New Jersey, which is a swing state, 300,000 voters in New Jersey were just sent letters saying that they are now ineligible to vote. New jersey is nice enough to actually notify them - most states will not even notify them. And New Jersey intends to send out 870,000 letters so that is three quarters of a million people off the voting rolls in a state that could decide this vote by 50,000 votes. And these are Democrats that are being pushed off the rolls.


Bobby: "Let me tell you about one other of these scams people should know about. If you're a newly registered voter - and of course the Democrats have done these gigantic registration drives - 12 million people on registration - if you're a new voter you MUST include your license or some other state I.D. when you come to vote. What that means is that if you're a college kid (and college kids now - they're sending in absentee ballots - they're not going to the voting place, they do everything online or they do everything remotely - they don't dream of going to the precinct house voting on election day and waiting in a long line) so if they send in the absentee ballot and they don't include a color copy of their license their vote is going to be thrown into a trash can. And none of these people know this because you have had to read the law in order to know it. So there is no notification for when you fill out your registration form, so all of those 12 million people that the Democrats have registered: those ballots are going to be just thrown out.


    Pap: "And if Democrats won't talk about this how the hell's anybody gonna know about it? I'm involved with this kind of thing every day - I didn't know that until you just told me. The media is not talking about it. How in the hell is somebody gonna find this out? It's just incredible.


    Bobby: "Hopefully - Obama is getting 66 million dollars a month - hopefully somebody in the Democratic organization is going to pay some attention to this before election day.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-25-2006
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 10:02pm

At the bottom the the page in this link, the HAVA ID requirements are specified:

http://www.fairfaxva.gov/Registrar/Registertovote.asp

"HAVA requires that, for federal elections held on or after January 1, 2004, voters who register by mail on or after January 1, 2003, for the first time in the state, must either: ....."

So it applies only to voters who register by mail and for the first time in a state. I think most people register in person when they apply for a driver's license. BUT, it could apply to students who plan to vote in the state where they attend college.

Thanks for alerting us....I'm gonna put it on the Parents of College Students board, also.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Sun, 09-28-2008 - 11:23pm

Wow... the republicans are following the LAW!!!!


I am shocked, truly shocked.

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-08-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 1:13am

Thanks for posting this. The good news is that the guy that used to help the GOP with these scams has written a book with details so that people will know what to be on the look out for, and also, Barack has a team of attorneys that will be dispatched around the country.

Remember that Barack was a community organizer who was passionate about voter registration. He has fought these scams before. So a lot of this cheating will be nipped in the bud. And America's trump card...Our Higher Power. We definitely need miracles when a desparate cheater like McCain feels entitled to win.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 2:01am

There's nothing wrong with the law.

The problem is that the ID requirements are not clearly disclosed on the absentee ballots. Anyone who receives an absentee ballot should get a copy of the HAVA requirements enclosed with the ballot. That may happen in some counties, but my guess is that it is not happening in the majority of them.

That means that many absentee ballots will be tossed in the trash because voters were unaware of the law.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-08-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 2:42am

((That means that many absentee ballots will be tossed in the trash because voters were unaware of the law.))

What a "lucky" break for the GOP. (rolling eyes)

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 8:43am
HAVA and the perfect match. This "little known" (oddly Air America and dailykos did know, but not the

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 8:51am

<>Thanks for alerting us....I'm gonna put it on the Parents of College Students board, also.<>


Yes, yes be sure to do that. Do you mind putting information


iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 8:53am

<>Remember that Barack was a community organizer who was passionate about voter registration.<>


Shhh, this is really not something to brag about at this time. shhhh



iVillage Member
Registered: 09-26-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 9:46am
I don's see a problem with it.
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 10:32am
<>I don's see a problem with it.

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