"Is Your Vote Safe?"

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Registered: 09-09-2008
"Is Your Vote Safe?"
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Sun, 09-28-2008 - 9:01pm
Transcript from Ring of Fire on Air America Radio

    Bobby: "There are about 30 scams the Republicans are deliberately using, particularly in the swing states to get Democratic voters off the rolls. These scams originate in the so-called Help America Vote Act which was passed after the Florida debacle in the year 2000. It was originally suggested by Democrats and Republicans but it was passed by a Republican congress with a Republican senate and a Republican president. And instead of reforming what happened in Florida it basically institutionalized all the problems that happened in Florida. And institutionalized a series of impediments that make it very difficult for Democrats to register, for Democrats to vote and then for Democrats to have their vote counted.

    "One of these requirements under HAVA is called "the perfect match" and what that does is little known but it is devastating. A quarter of the voters in Colorado have just been removed from the rolls because of this - just this one scam. And what it does is they use a computer system to compare your registration application to all other government records of you in the state. So they'll look at your social security records, your motor vehicle records and any time you've had any interaction with the government and if there is any information on your voter registration that is different than the information on another government record that they find they remove you from the voting rolls.


 "For example, if I registered as Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and yet my motor vehicle license said Robert Frances Kennedy Jr. I'd be removed from the rolls. If your initial is different, if you leave an initial out, if you leave a "Jr." out, if you leave a hyphen out in your name. And what they've done is a study in New York that said 80% of the errors are errors that were done by state clerks who are taking down this information. And particularly immigrant communities that people tend to vote Democratic, people have names … spell Muhammad with an "o" instead of a "u" (crosstalk)


    Pap: "Are the Democrats Suing to Stop This?"


    Bobby: "No, the Democrats are doing nothing to stop it. In New Jersey, which is a swing state, 300,000 voters in New Jersey were just sent letters saying that they are now ineligible to vote. New jersey is nice enough to actually notify them - most states will not even notify them. And New Jersey intends to send out 870,000 letters so that is three quarters of a million people off the voting rolls in a state that could decide this vote by 50,000 votes. And these are Democrats that are being pushed off the rolls.


Bobby: "Let me tell you about one other of these scams people should know about. If you're a newly registered voter - and of course the Democrats have done these gigantic registration drives - 12 million people on registration - if you're a new voter you MUST include your license or some other state I.D. when you come to vote. What that means is that if you're a college kid (and college kids now - they're sending in absentee ballots - they're not going to the voting place, they do everything online or they do everything remotely - they don't dream of going to the precinct house voting on election day and waiting in a long line) so if they send in the absentee ballot and they don't include a color copy of their license their vote is going to be thrown into a trash can. And none of these people know this because you have had to read the law in order to know it. So there is no notification for when you fill out your registration form, so all of those 12 million people that the Democrats have registered: those ballots are going to be just thrown out.


    Pap: "And if Democrats won't talk about this how the hell's anybody gonna know about it? I'm involved with this kind of thing every day - I didn't know that until you just told me. The media is not talking about it. How in the hell is somebody gonna find this out? It's just incredible.


    Bobby: "Hopefully - Obama is getting 66 million dollars a month - hopefully somebody in the Democratic organization is going to pay some attention to this before election day.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 11:24am

I did not mention the word 'fraud' in my post. I provided a link to the HAVA requirements. Anyone who submits an absentee ballot should know what needs to be done to make his vote legal, and count.

I believe our constitutional right to vote encompasses our right to be informed by the government of steps we must take to do it legally. Counties should be required to disclose HAVA ID reqmts on the absentee ballot.

You got a problem with that?

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Registered: 09-26-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 11:29am
LOL - yes, I'm sure that's all ACORN does is sign up fraudulent voters.
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-25-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 11:36am

No, but they certainly sign up far more than their share...


Otherwise they wouldn't have all those fraud convictions

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-25-2008
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 12:18pm
And Allen Raymond's recent book, called How To Rig An Election (Confessions of a Republican Operative). This one has the added bonus of being written by a Republican, about Republican dirty tricks.....which lends it an out-of-the-gate credibility which Fund's book about Democrats (Fund is a Wall Street Journal and American Spectator columnist) simply doesn't have.

Or perhaps they could post up Confessions Of A Political Hitman, also written by a former GOP staffer, this time in the area of "oppo research."

Those would be good. ;o)



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Wherever a hungry new born baby cries

Wherever there's a fight against the blood and hatred in the air

Look for me ma'

I'll be there

Wherever somebody's strugglin' for a place to stand

For a decent job or a helpin' hand

Wherever somebody is strugglin' to be free

Look in their eyes ma,

You'll see me!


iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 1:11pm

The OP made it seem as if only Dems were being denied the right to vote, because


iVillage Member
Registered: 10-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 1:38pm

You never overlooked any tidbit of information in any application process you ever particpated in? Hoooraaaayyy for you.

Most of us are not perfect like you.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 1:43pm

Hehe, perfect, hehe


Anyway, I can't figure out why I can sign up to vote, even after a move within the last year, within CO and no problem, yet 25% of Dems are not able to do it.



iVillage Member
Registered: 01-28-2004
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 2:02pm
Brings to memory the Democrat slogan "vote early and vote often".
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-25-2006
Mon, 09-29-2008 - 2:17pm
Chicago style


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