OMG. Palin has no brain.

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Registered: 09-06-2008
OMG. Palin has no brain.
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Wed, 10-01-2008 - 8:09pm

Never - ever - have I heard more a vacuous, vapid response to a question from a major candidate for public office:


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/01/eveningnews/main4493062.shtml


Please, people.  Please.  You cannot put this bimbo in the White House.

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Registered: 07-15-2008
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 8:28am

The real question is that the best YOU and people who think like you have got?

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Registered: 01-18-2006
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 8:35am
None of those videos were what people thought Obama said.

 

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 8:42am
OK this is about as OT as it gets, but how do you make chocolate meringue pie? That sounds wicked good.
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Registered: 05-05-2008
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 9:05am

>>> 1) Saddam Hussein was dumping a lot of surplus oil onto the market and hurting his OPEC partners and American oil companies.


But wait! I thought all of the lefties said that Hussein was "contained" and not a threat? Sounds pretty difficult for a guy who's "contained" to dump enough oil to hurt OPEC.


The "lefties" as you so eloquently put it were talking about Hussein being a physical threat, not an economic one.


>>> 2) Just prior to America attacking Iraq, Saddam converted his oil sales from US dollars to Euros, thus breaking the petrodollar recycling model.


Is that why he kept stalling and not allowing inspections?


What do WMD inspections have to do with petrodollar currency? Absolutely nothing. But the Bush government needed to give the American people

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Registered: 07-15-2008
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 1:43pm

And the pie was lip-smacking.

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Registered: 09-06-2008
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 2:06pm
The University of Illinois has a much closer relationship to Ayers (he's been a professor there for years) than does Obama, whose association with Ayers was tangential at best.
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Registered: 07-22-2008
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 5:08pm

>>> 1) Saddam Hussein was dumping a lot of surplus oil onto the market and hurting his OPEC partners and American oil companies.

< But wait! I thought all of the lefties said that Hussein was "contained" and not a threat? Sounds pretty difficult for a guy who's "contained" to dump enough oil to hurt OPEC.

>>> The "lefties" as you so eloquently put it were talking about Hussein being a physical threat, not an economic one.

I know. And after the OFF scandal was exposed we learned that Hussein was illegally selling oil to bankroll his WMD programs, but he was in no position to dump enough oil to hurt, or influence, OPEC. The threat from Hussein was physical, not economic.

>>> 2) Just prior to America attacking Iraq, Saddam converted his oil sales from US dollars to Euros, thus breaking the petrodollar recycling model.

< Is that why he kept stalling and not allowing inspections?

>>> What do WMD inspections have to do with petrodollar currency? Absolutely nothing. But the Bush government needed to give the American people a big scary reason to attack Iraq.

Um...the US invasion of Iraq hinged on Saddam complying with UN resolutions, not some bizarre currency conversion that no one cared about. Saddam had some cash, but nothing like the tremendous amounts you're imagining that could impact world markets.

< As ruse to buy time to convert his dollars, which were worth more, to Euros?

>>> The Euro was introduced in 2000 and hit parity with the US dollar in January 2003. The Euro has remained the dominant currency ever since.

In Europe...which pretty much makes sense since it's called the "Euro."

< Was this because people were not accepting dollars anymore?

>>> Many nations didn't and don't want to pay for US imports or be paid for US exports in US dollars, and perhaps if they didn't have to, your entire economy wouldn't be coming apart at the seams right now.

Our economy is going through a downturn due to foolish lending practices. What's your excuse? And hate to break it to you, but the dollar is the monetary standard by which all other currencies are measured.

< OPE nations I hadn't heard about that. It's also odd that all of the millions and millions in cash that the military discovered was in American dollars...but then, maybe Hussein didn't have time to convert those.

>>> He WANTED to start taking payment in Euros, for many reasons - clearly your government wasn't going along with that.

Hmmm...maybe it was because he was doing business with France and Germany? You seem to have this bizarre notion that "my government" is afraid of Hussein getting a few billion in Euros. It's inane. We just allocated a TRILLION dollars for a stupid "rescue plan" and BILLIONS and BILLIONS more in other spending. Hussein's a little fish in a big economic pond. Take off the tin foil hat.

>>> You make it sound sinister than he had warehouses full of US cash - where do you think you got it? From America paying for oil!

Some, sure...but most of his stockpiles of cash were from his corruption of the OFF program.

>>> 3) This was enough for the US to "justify" an attack and to later set up the largest US military base outside of the US.

< It was nice of Saddam to help us out by refusing to allow inspections.

>>> Oh and imagine all the lives (and money - what's that war debt up to these days?) that would have been saved if he had just let you in.

But he didn't...and look at him now! Oh, wait...you can't. LOL!

>>> Why SHOULD ANY foreign leader of a sovereign nation allow the US on to their soil?

Um...because we'll kick their a$$ if they f*** with us? Actually, there were two reasons...first, the Gulf War was never "over"...we just declared a ceasefire contingent upon Hussein complying with UN resolutions. He didn't, so we had ever legal right to resume hostilities. Second, in UN 1441, the UNSC demanded Iraq immediately disarm and allow unfettered inspections AND authorized member states (that's the US, ya know) to take action to restore the peace. In other words, Saddam had to permit the inspections or he was gonna get stomped....and, well, the rest is history.

>>> The US was in defiance of the United Nations and had no right to enter Iraq.

The US was not in "defiance" of the UN...in fact, it had the sanction of the UN via Resolution 1441. And as a sovereign nation, the US has every right to address perceived threats.

< Can you imagine the embarrassment if he screwed up all of our plans by just saying "ok?"

>>> Anything lke the embarassment the goverment would have felt if they ever actually admitted there were no WMD?

You can believe that there weren't any WMDs, I happen to believe that there were...but in either case, the salient point is that the US, the UN, the US Congress and our allies ALL had a good-faith belief that there were WMDs...and that Hussein perpetuated that belief. We don't have to prove that there are bullets in the gun before taking steps to disarm or neutralize the criminal holding it.

>>> Or apologized to the Iraqi people for the utter destruction of their country?

I don't recall that apology...do you have a link?

>>> 4) It was about oil, but to keep it in the ground, not to extract it, thus driving prices higher.

< Um...but oil prices didn't skyrocket after the invasion. In fact, they didn't zoom up until almost 6 years later. Doesn't sound like a very good plan. But Bush finally achieved success in his Machiavellian plan when oil got near $150/gal...but then his diabolical scheme was foiled when oil prices started dropping again. Oh well...maybe next time.

>>> Actually, oil prices have steadily increased every year since 1999. if you think it's ever going back down to pre-war levels of $30 per barrel, you're dreaming. $100 per barrel is now the new baseline for oil prices, I'd say that plan worked extremely well.

The price of milk has steadily increased too. Darn those cows!!! Darn inflation!!!

>>> By installing a "puppet"regime, the US has basically bought themselves a seat at the OPEC table.

< Sounds more like we bought the "puppet" regime a seat at the table. LOL! Somehow I doubt that we really wanted to be a member of OPEC that badly.

>>> The US wouldn't want to be part of a cartel that controls one of the world's (and the US's) most valuable commodities? That's just bad business to not want to be sitting at that table, or pulling the strings of someone who is.

If it was "bad business" then we'd obviously be "at the table." But from a practical standpoint, who cares? We buy most of our oil from non-OPEC nations.

>>> 5) The intended consequence of all of the above is to additionally surround the southern states of the former Soviet Union and Iran, thus destabalizing the entire region. ( although I'm sure that Al Qaeda will be sighted there soon!)

< The plan was to surround Russia and Iraq from Iraq? Sounds a little ambitious.

>>> SOUTHERN STATES OF THE FORMER SOVIET UNION and IRAN from the base that's now been established in Iraq. That sounds ambitious to you?

LOL! Yeah, that sounds ambitious. I do however think that our continued presence in Iraq and Afghanistan can keep rogue nations in check and allow democracy to take root, which will, ultimately be a stabilizing factor in the region.

>>> Do you think it's a coincidence that Iran and Pakistan are in the news so much these days? Don't worry about Northern Russia - Sarah's got her eye on that for ya!

Well...Iran is in the news because it's flapping it's gums and trying to build a nuclear bomb. And, um, Pakistan is in the news because of our relationship with the new government and because of the Taliban and Al Qaeda who are hiding within it's borders. I think that mostly covers it.

>>> I guess the ballistic missiles the US has put in the Czech Republic and Poland are to stop "terrorists"?

No, Iran, actually.

>>> Donald Rumsfeld's entire strategy involved moving US military bases out of the "old" Europe, into the "new": Bulgaria, Turkey, Kosovo to create a "strategy zone" from eastern Europe to China. It's a very ambitious plan and it appears to be working.

Gosh, I hope so. ; )

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 5:46pm
Cool, thanks very much.
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Registered: 01-18-2006
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 7:14pm
Tangible?

 

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Registered: 09-16-2008
Sun, 10-05-2008 - 7:37pm
Keating 5 and G Gordon Liddy

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