becoming socialist

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-02-2008
becoming socialist
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Fri, 10-03-2008 - 9:56pm

Is there anything for the citizens who don't want to become socialists to do.  What should I be doing? I don't want our country on that path and it seems it is.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 04-02-2008
Fri, 10-03-2008 - 10:44pm
and according to dems obama had a huge hand in it!
iVillage Member
Registered: 06-09-2008
Fri, 10-03-2008 - 10:51pm
Know your opponent. Why don't you try learning about Socialism so you can better combat it?



I've read the talking points of both the Communist Manifesto & the Nazi Socialist Party......he's closer to Socialism from what I've seen.

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 10-03-2008 - 11:37pm

America is not a capitalist society. We are a consumer society, and have been since the 1930s arguably and certainly since the 1940s.


What people tend to ignore is that what really made America great was not necessarly captialism, but the industrial revolution. Here's one small example. Prior to the industrial revolution, nails were made by farmers as a sort of home industry to occupy their time during the winter. The farmers heated iron bars in their fireplaces and used tongs to break off the edges of the bars to make nails. That's why the really old nails are square. They still reflect how they were made.


But the industrial revolution change that. Iron could be produced in huge quantities in blast furnaces. The way to produce nails was to draw them out of the furnaces in a stream of hot metal and cut the stream at the length you wanted the nails. Imagine the sheer change of volume. Huge. And they could be produced in such

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-26-2008
Fri, 10-03-2008 - 11:47pm
You are certainly a smart "old dude."
iVillage Member
Registered: 11-11-1999
Fri, 10-03-2008 - 11:48pm

Your link is nonsense if you are using it to claim the Nazis were socialists, they were no more socialist then the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy. Any pretense of socialism in the Nazis died with Ernst Rohm when Hitler assumed power.


German agriculture remained in private hands in an almost fuedal state, all farms of under 300 acres were, by law, passed down within families, they were never collectivized. The German state rose due to capitalism, George Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, sold Nazi war bonds through 1942, the German stock market was one of the first allied bombing targets in World War II in 1942, and in addition, Ford

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Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

iVillage Member
Registered: 06-09-2008
Fri, 10-03-2008 - 11:56pm

But

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-05-2008
Sat, 10-04-2008 - 8:05am
great post!

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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-15-2008
Sat, 10-04-2008 - 8:28am

Wonderful post.

iVillage Member
Registered: 04-04-2003
Sat, 10-04-2008 - 9:00am
Everyday that goes by recently makes me believe we are headed down this path. I feel like I'm on a hijacked bus heading straight for a cliff and there is nothing that I can do to stop it.
iVillage Member
Registered: 09-25-2008
Sat, 10-04-2008 - 9:10am
They would nationalize everything if they could and take 90% of your pay. Imagine a government that chooses your car, house, food, and cloths for you.


This is abject nonsense. Please show me anything, anyWHERE, that Obama has said anything approaching this. Or is it merely your contention that, despite whatever he or Biden may SAY on the campaign trail, YOU alone know what's TRULY in their hearts...."Orwellian-style big government?"

We are going to see another "Carter-like dip" in this country REGARDLESS of who's elected. We are entering a rather deep recession; there's simply no two ways about it. We've got nine - NINE - solid months of job LOSSES in this country, just like during the first several years of the Bush Preznitcy. Unemployment is at a decades-long high (and rising). On the last day of last month, our national debt topped TEN TRILLION DOLLARS.

Make no mistake, it is going to be an ugly time, no matter WHO is elected President: years of Republican borrow-and-spend, combined with tax-cutting in a time of not one but TWO wars (and one of the two Presidential candidates itching to start a third by bomb bomb bomb, bomb-bombing Iran), the near-total failure of not only our actual banking system, but the ideology of deregulated, free-market, self-regulating, responsible financial institutions that went behind it, as well -- these things cannot be shrugged off or swept aside any longer no matter who is President. McCain will not be a panacea, neither would Romney nor Giuliani nor Ron Paul have been. Obama won't be, either. But at the very least, he will know enough to both recognize and understand the cardinal rule of finding oneself in a hole: STOP DIGGING.

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