Fact Checking: Sarah Palin LIES AGAIN

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Fact Checking: Sarah Palin LIES AGAIN
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Tue, 10-07-2008 - 1:58am

I am sick of hearing McCain and Sarah lie over and over, without consequences. I am going to work harder to make sure these clowns don't get elected.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/05/fact-check-is-obama-palling-around-with-terrorists/

Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'?

Posted: 09:00 AM ET

Gov. Palin commented about Sen. Obama and William Ayers at a rally in Carson, California Saturday.

The Statement: Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin said Saturday, October 4, that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is "someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

Watch: Is Obama a terrorist's pal?

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The Facts: In making the charge at a fund-raising event in Englewood, Colorado, and a rally in Carson, California, Palin was referring at least in part to William Ayers, a 1960s radical. In both appearances, Palin cited a front-page article in Saturday's New York Times detailing the working relationship between Obama and Ayers.

In the 1960s, Ayers was a founding member of the radical Weather Underground group that carried out a string of bombings of federal buildings, including the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol, in protest against the Vietnam War. The now-defunct group was labeled a "domestic terrorist group" by the FBI, and Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn — also a Weather Underground member — spent 10 years as fugitives in the 1970s. Federal charges against them were dropped due to FBI misconduct in gathering evidence against them, and they resurfaced in 1980. Both Ayers and Dohrn ultimately became university professors in Chicago, with Ayers, 63, now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Obama's Chicago home is in the same neighborhood where Ayers and Dohrn live. Beginning in 1995, Ayers and Obama worked with the non-profit Chicago Annenberg Challenge on a huge school improvement project. The Annenberg Challenge was for cities to compete for $50 million grants to improve public education. Ayers fought to bring the grant to Chicago, and Obama was recruited onto the board. Also from 1999 through 2001 both were board members on the Woods Fund, a charitable foundation that gave money to various causes, including the Trinity United Church that Obama attended and Northwestern University Law Schools' Children and Family Justice Center, where Dohrn worked.

CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.

Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told CNN that after meeting Obama through the Annenberg project, Ayers hosted a campaign event for him that same year when then-Illinois state Sen. Alice Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced the young community organizer as her chosen successor. LaBolt also said the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.

The extent of Obama's relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood … the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago — when I was 8 years old — somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

The McCain campaign did not respond Saturday to a request for elaboration on Palin's use of the plural "terrorists."

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Verdict: FALSE. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

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Registered: 10-07-2008
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 6:08am
I don't understand why the republicans don't understand that the Ayers affair is a non-issue to most of us. The only people it seems to upset are the people who are solidly in the McCain camp. Seems a wasted effort on their part since the only people they are convincing are themselves. Just another indication of how out of touch they are. I think McCain thinks that playing the Ayers affair over and over will cause his opponent to lose, but I think the plan may backfire, I think it may cause McCain to lose. When times are tough we don't need more negativity, we need calm, reasoned approaches. If he is so negative on the campaign trail how is he going to work with both sides after the election, doesn't he realize he is pissing the other side off? Does he think they will just forget it after the election? Short sighted strategy, just like our strategy in Iraq.
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Registered: 09-08-2008
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 6:28am

You made some great points....((The only people it seems to upset are the people who are solidly in the McCain camp.))

And launching these smears makes the GOP think they are being offensive, instead of admitting that they are losing. They are distracting THEMSELVES from admitting that they are losing. They feel they still have straws to grab at. The negativity, dressed-up in catch phrases and fakes smiles, is not going to be enough to solve our financial woes and energy dependence issues.

McCain and Palin know that they are telling lies, and now we know they know. It will be interesting to listen to their speeches now that Americans see the hate-filled rallies they are encouraging. It is so dangerous and embarrassing that the rest of the world sees McCain behave this way.

I know they are just pawns, and the big GOP players are pushing them around, but McCain has been around long enough to know better than to smear an innocent man like Obama just to win an election. McCain can't deny, deny, deny that he knew anything about these lies the way unknown Bush43 did when he ran for POTUS and mercilessly smeared McCain.

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Registered: 10-07-2008
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 9:07am

Every politician exagerates:


Check out the true facts from last nites debate


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27076605/?GT1=43001


I don't know either why they are concentrating on Ayers.

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Registered: 10-07-2008
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 4:27pm

How do you feel about the proposal McCain made about buying bad mortgages? I pay my mortgage on time and don't see why I should be expected to foot the bill for all the homes McCain is proposing to purchase. It's bad enough I will be paying to bail out Wall Street now I am expected to buy all these houses as well?

Funny, I think if Obama had proposed that I would be seeing 'socialist' smears and complaints of how impractical the proposal was, not to mention how he proposed to pay for it. Now we have McCain, the republican, saying he will cut taxes and buy up bad mortgages? It is nonsensical. I think I smells like pandering and anyone who votes on that issue will be sadly disappointed.

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 5:56pm

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So true, the accusations that would be hurled at the Dems if they had proposed buying up the bad mortgages.

If such legislation were to pass, then there will be many homeowners who'd say, "Okay, I guess I don't have to break my butt trying to pay my monthly mortgage payment. The gov't will buy it up, so I'll just quit paying, and then I'll get bailed out like everyone else." When we're bailing out the insurance companies, the investment banks, the commercial banks, and soon to be bailing out the airlines and the automakers, HELL, why shouldn't we ALL get bailed out? This has already gone way too far.

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Registered: 10-20-2007
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 6:48pm

"And yet since Sarah has started to 'get out the truth' ad nauseum Obama's numbers have continued to climb and McCain's numbers have continued to fall. So, how's it working for ya? "


 

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Registered: 03-25-2007
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 7:22pm

ACORN is pretty mainstream.

Sopal

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Registered: 08-20-2008
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 8:17pm

*ROTFL* "If McCain had dealings with ACORN, I imagine that he would be driven from the Republican party."

wait a sec here, i might be misreading this thru my tears of laughter, but isn't Obama having dealings with ACORN? SO why is he not driven from the Democrat party?

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Registered: 03-25-2007
Wed, 10-08-2008 - 8:42pm


I don't know about the Democrat party, but the Democratic party is not in opposition to ACORN.

Sopal

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Thu, 10-09-2008 - 3:07am

((Now we have McCain, the republican, saying he will cut taxes and buy up bad mortgages? It is nonsensical. I think I smells like pandering and anyone who votes on that issue will be sadly disappointed.))

This is how I see it, too. McCain was the first one to run on stage and say that it wasn't the gov't responsibility to bail out irresponsible home owners and within a week, he ran back out in front of the cameras to say that Bush43 was drawing up a plan to help homeowners. Totally schizoid. lol. McCain doesn't know what he stands for...I take that back, McCain stands for saying whatever he has to to win. How smarmy.

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