Fact Checking: Sarah Palin LIES AGAIN

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Fact Checking: Sarah Palin LIES AGAIN
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Tue, 10-07-2008 - 1:58am

I am sick of hearing McCain and Sarah lie over and over, without consequences. I am going to work harder to make sure these clowns don't get elected.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/05/fact-check-is-obama-palling-around-with-terrorists/

Fact Check: Is Obama 'palling around with terrorists'?

Posted: 09:00 AM ET

Gov. Palin commented about Sen. Obama and William Ayers at a rally in Carson, California Saturday.

The Statement: Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin said Saturday, October 4, that Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama is "someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country."

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The Facts: In making the charge at a fund-raising event in Englewood, Colorado, and a rally in Carson, California, Palin was referring at least in part to William Ayers, a 1960s radical. In both appearances, Palin cited a front-page article in Saturday's New York Times detailing the working relationship between Obama and Ayers.

In the 1960s, Ayers was a founding member of the radical Weather Underground group that carried out a string of bombings of federal buildings, including the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol, in protest against the Vietnam War. The now-defunct group was labeled a "domestic terrorist group" by the FBI, and Ayers and his wife, Bernadine Dohrn — also a Weather Underground member — spent 10 years as fugitives in the 1970s. Federal charges against them were dropped due to FBI misconduct in gathering evidence against them, and they resurfaced in 1980. Both Ayers and Dohrn ultimately became university professors in Chicago, with Ayers, 63, now an education professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

Obama's Chicago home is in the same neighborhood where Ayers and Dohrn live. Beginning in 1995, Ayers and Obama worked with the non-profit Chicago Annenberg Challenge on a huge school improvement project. The Annenberg Challenge was for cities to compete for $50 million grants to improve public education. Ayers fought to bring the grant to Chicago, and Obama was recruited onto the board. Also from 1999 through 2001 both were board members on the Woods Fund, a charitable foundation that gave money to various causes, including the Trinity United Church that Obama attended and Northwestern University Law Schools' Children and Family Justice Center, where Dohrn worked.

CNN's review of project records found nothing to suggest anything inappropriate in the volunteer projects in which the two men were involved.

Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt told CNN that after meeting Obama through the Annenberg project, Ayers hosted a campaign event for him that same year when then-Illinois state Sen. Alice Palmer, who planned to run for Congress, introduced the young community organizer as her chosen successor. LaBolt also said the two have not spoken by phone or exchanged e-mail messages since Obama came to the U.S. Senate in 2005 and last met more than a year ago when they encountered each other on the street in their Hyde Park neighborhood.

The extent of Obama's relationship with Ayers came up during the Democratic presidential primaries earlier this year, and Obama explained it by saying, "This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood … the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago — when I was 8 years old — somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense."

The McCain campaign did not respond Saturday to a request for elaboration on Palin's use of the plural "terrorists."

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Verdict: FALSE. There is no indication that Ayers and Obama are now "palling around," or that they have had an ongoing relationship in the past three years. Also, there is nothing to suggest that Ayers is now involved in terrorist activity or that other Obama associates are.

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Fri, 10-10-2008 - 8:27pm

simple math:

41% of 1,000,000 is: 410,000. 1,000,000-410,000= 590,000

41% of 500,000 is: 205,000. 500,000-205,000=295,000

Now say we have the other end of the spectrum, how much do you propose the pay % for taxes? 15%? Not sure but let's say you do say 15%? Ok so we are going to assume that is for those who make less that 250,000? ok so
15% Of 250,000 is: 37,500. 250,000-37,500=212,500. ok so you mean to tell me that someone who makes double the amount of someone (ie the 500,000 to the 250,000 *yes that is still a good chunk of change*) should live THE SAME F'IN LIFESTYLE AS THOSE THAT MAKE LESS? the difference between 295,000 and 212,500 is not a huge amount in the grand scheme of things. how would you feel if you were in the higher bracket? You worked your butt off for that money and boom, half of it is gone. what would the implications be to society then?

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 12:53am

I'll wager I'm paying a higher proportion of my income in taxes than you are - does that make me more patriotic than you?

~ SW

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 1:00am

Song, if you are

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 2:21am

((That has nothing to do with Bush or the Republicans. Your should just admit they are a bad actor on the side of the Democrats. ))

lol. As if. How does admitting that the GOP, notorious for voter suppression and voter fraud, is merely using a voter suppression tactic orchestrated by the leader of the GOP...Bush43, his string-pullers Cheney and Poppy Bush?

Sure, ACORN might be responsible for voter fraud...but NOT EVERY registration is fraudulent. And yet, the GOP claim that they ALL are, which removes tens of thousands of names from the rosters. Now, the GOP launches this "investigation" and gains access to legitimate voter information, which they turn around and manipulate to drop democrats from the lists!

The GOP are accused of:
1) putting people on the terror watch list
2) sending mail with the wrong names to those addresses forcing voters to "prove" they are who they say they are
3) putting people on felon lists
4) throwing away legitimate registrations for irrelevant reasons
5) sending absentee ballots to people with Obama's name spelled wrong
Any one of these tactics results in long lines that keep voters from voting before the polls close. Truly evil and desperate acts to keep the GOP in power, but Obama has attorneys in each state. That crap won't work this time. lol.

(((((((((The very idea of voter suppression ought to be repugnant to any of us who value democracy.
Anita F. Hill is professor of law, social policy, and women's studies at Heller Graduate School at Brandeis University. )))))))))))

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Sat, 10-11-2008 - 9:16am

song, and what you continue to ignore is the fact that government spending has no relationship whatsoever to what they spend.


The only way to rein in the deficit is to force the governement to cut spending.

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sat, 10-11-2008 - 10:11am

Here is the actual quote from his book

Actual quote: "Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." (page 261).

Context matters.

As for the rest of your rant, it is nothing more than a high schoolish "You're just jealous of Sarah 'cuz she's so pretty and her hubbie is such a dreamboat" tirade one would expect form a 15 year old. How old are you ?

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 10:25am

"Sure, ACORN might be responsible for voter fraud...but NOT EVERY registration is fraudulent. And yet, the GOP claim that they ALL are, which removes tens of thousands of names from the rosters."


Please provide a link

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Sat, 10-11-2008 - 8:55pm

((((How old are you ?))))


lol.

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Registered: 09-08-2008
Sat, 10-11-2008 - 10:34pm

Good grief, Sarah...Stop lying! The fake report that you and McCain released first does NOT count. lol.

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Sat, 10-11-2008 - 10:45pm

Palin has a really bad record on dirty politics. I remember hearing that clip of her on some talk radio show in Alaska when the host went off in a totally inappropriate manner on one of her political adversaries and Palin just giggled. Now she's accusing Obama of palling around with terrorists. She is pumping up the right winger hatred at rallies. It's a disgrace.

Even McCain has the decency to tell people that they don't have to be scared if Obama is President, that Obama is a family man, and that he is not an Arab. McCain is much better than Palin. God save us if McCain is elected and Palin steps in. She is totally out of her league. From what I have seen, she has far from proven herself as being qualified.

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