I suppose that we could go back and forth ad nauseam and to little avail. Whatever the rantings of the organizations founder or whatever their context, the organization itself doesn't espouse secession as it's primary goal and Todd Palin's participation has been minimal at best. I'll leave you to your own interpretation and how relevant this is to the Presidential election.
Sounds like an issue of choice. If it were secession then it would stand to reason that secession would be the primary, if not the sole, theme. I also didn't see any kind of a petition, which would seem to be a pretty basic start to a serious move towards secession. As I said, you can make of it what you like, but it really seems like a big nothing to me.
My question is: Obama is a smart man; a man who knows his history - why would Obama lie and say he did not know who Bill Ayers was or what he stood for at the time he worked with him; sat on a board with him?
>> Obviously, you have not had any experience working on boards. I have. Boards are not made up of 2-3 people. The smallest board I have worked on had 10 people the largest up to 50. You are not provided with biographical information of fellow board members. You work with your fellow board members to promote the mission and guide the directions of the organization that you are representing. The purpose of a board is broad oversight. As part of the board membership you will lend financial support to the organization and if other board members are politically connected you contribute to their campaigns. No member of a board puts other members under a biographical microscope. People who are lucky enough to be asked to serve are generally very busy and are people who focus on ideas and issues and not concerned with the petty details of others lives.
I would be more concerned about the chronic and blatant lies of Sarah Palin.
Please tell me, if Bill Ayers is a terrorist, why isn't he in jail? What crimes are the crimes that he has been convicted of?
Obama didn't lie. Try unbiased sources for garnering information about candidates. I just read an article in today's Chicago Tribune (a right-leaning newspaper), It verified their relationship was just as Obama has said it was.
Are you aware, you're the only one who refers to Ayers as a terrorist? He wasn't called a terrorist in the 60's, and no one is calling him that now. Who cares what about ancient history? He is not the same person that he was in the 60's, and the country isn't the same either. This trying to make an issue where there is none, is beating a dead horse. Most American's are concerned with the economy, and how it would be handled by each of the candidates.
The government did investigate Ayers, and it was determined there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute him or the other members of the Weathermen. Therefore, they didn't. For those who may not know, or weren't around during that time, the Weathermen did set off bombs, but they never injured or killed anyone. I'm not condoning what they did; I just think people should be aware of those facts.
edited to add: There were other militant groups at that time, including the Chicago Seven. They were brought to trial. In the years that have past, a few have become lawyers, all became productive citizens. Ayers became a respected professor of education at a large university. IMHO,
No, he did not lie. I have also sat on a few boards. When you only meet four times a year, you get to know some members superficially, and others you click with, more closely. The issues I discussed with the other board members, mostly concerned the issues we were dealing with...not what we were doing forty years ago. Obviously at some point, Ayers told Obama about his past, and about his current beliefs. Obama has said he disagrees with Ayers opinions. There is no "why", he didn't lie.
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My question is: Obama is a smart man; a man who knows his history - why would Obama lie and say he did not know who Bill Ayers was or what he stood for at the time he worked with him; sat on a board with him?
>> Obviously, you have not had any experience working on boards. I have. Boards are not made up of 2-3 people. The smallest board I have worked on had 10 people the largest up to 50. You are not provided with biographical information of fellow board members. You work with your fellow board members to promote the mission and guide the directions of the organization that you are representing. The purpose of a board is broad oversight. As part of the board membership you will lend financial support to the organization and if other board members are politically connected you contribute to their campaigns. No member of a board puts other members under a biographical microscope. People who are lucky enough to be asked to serve are generally very busy and are people who focus on ideas and issues and not concerned with the petty details of others lives.
I would be more concerned about the chronic and blatant lies of Sarah Palin.
Please tell me, if Bill Ayers is a terrorist, why isn't he in jail? What crimes are the crimes that he has been convicted of?
Ah, so when Sarah Palin recites the pledge of allegiance she skips the "indivisible" part?
Rose
Are you aware, you're the only one who refers to Ayers as a terrorist? He wasn't called a terrorist in the 60's, and no one is calling him that now. Who cares what about ancient history? He is not the same person that he was in the 60's, and the country isn't the same either. This trying to make an issue where there is none, is beating a dead horse. Most American's are concerned with the economy, and how it would be handled by each of the candidates.
Rose
The government did investigate Ayers, and it was determined there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute him or the other members of the Weathermen. Therefore, they didn't. For those who may not know, or weren't around during that time, the Weathermen did set off bombs, but they never injured or killed anyone. I'm not condoning what they did; I just think people should be aware of those facts.
edited to add: There were other militant groups at that time, including the Chicago Seven. They were brought to trial. In the years that have past, a few have become lawyers, all became productive citizens. Ayers became a respected professor of education at a large university. IMHO,
Rose
Rose
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