CNN Nails 0bama on Ayers

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CNN Nails 0bama on Ayers
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Tue, 10-07-2008 - 3:26pm

Well, I guess CNN does stand for the Clinton News Network..but they did report that 0bama's and Ayers relationship was more than what 0bama has stated.

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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 10:46pm
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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 10:48pm

A bit more.


Obama/Ayres is all coming out now.

Friday, August 22nd, 2008



First, we need to know why Ayres was an Education professor. Now we know. At least we know part of it.


Ayers’s spectacular second act began when he enrolled at Columbia University’s Teachers College in 1984. Then 40, he planned to stay just to get a teaching credential. (He had taught in a “Freedom School” during his pre-underground student radical days.) But he experienced an epiphany in a course taught by Maxine Greene, a leading light of the “critical pedagogy” movement. As Ayers wrote later, he took fire from Greene’s lectures on how the “oppressive hegemony” of the capitalist social order “reproduces” itself through the traditional practice of public schooling—critical pedagogy’s fancy way of saying that the evil corporations exercise thought control through the schools.


What is the purpose of his Education career ? His position as a Professor of Education?


Future teachers signing up for Ayers’s course “On Urban Education” can read these exhortations from the course description on the professor’s website:


“Homelessness, crime, racism, oppression—we have the resources and knowledge to fight and overcome these things.”


“We need to look beyond our isolated situations, to define our problems globally. We cannot be child advocates . . . in Chicago or New York and ignore the web that links us with the children of India or Palestine.”


“In a truly just society there would be a greater sharing of the burden, a fairer distribution of material and human resources.”


For another course, titled “Improving Learning Environments,” Ayers proposes that teachers “be aware of the social and moral universe we inhabit and . . . be a teacher capable of hope and struggle, outrage and action, a teacher teaching for social justice and liberation.”


For students who might get bored with the purely pedagogic approach to liberation, Ayers also offers a course on the real thing, called “Social Conflicts of the 1960’s.” For this class Ayers also posts his introduction to the soon-to-be-published collection of Weather Underground agitprop that he edited with Dohrn—called, with no intended parody, Sing a Battle Song: The Revolutionary Poetry, Statements and Communiqués of the Weather Underground, 1970-1974. “Once things were connected,” Ayers’s introduction recollects, “we saw a system at work, we were radicalized, we named that system—imperialism—and forged an idea of how to overthrow it. We were influenced by Marx, but we were formed more closely and precisely by Che, Ho, Malcolm X, Amílcar Cabral, Mandela—the Third World revolutionaries—and we called ourselves small ‘c’ communists to indicate our rejection of what had become of Marx in the Soviet Block . . . . We were anti-authoritarian, anti-orthodoxy, communist street fighters.”


How long after Obama’s inauguration do you think it would be before Ayres is named Secretary of Education ?


No wonder the SAT scores have been falling.


How should teachers teach science, for example? According to one of the books, Ayers and Greene approved for publishing,


“The marriages between capitalism and education and capitalism and science have created a foundation for science education that emphasizes corporate values at the expense of social justice and human dignity.” The alternative? “Science pedagogy framed around social justice concerns can become a medium to transform individuals, schools, communities, the environment, and science itself, in ways that promote equity and social justice. Creating a science education that is transformative implies not only how science is a political activity but also the ways in which students might see and use science and science education in ways transformative of the institutional and interpersonal power structures that play a role in their lives.”


And we thought that science was still safe !


Well. don’t lose hope. Next week, the CAC records are supposed to be available.


We”ll see.


http://abriefhistory.org/?tag=ayres

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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 11:32pm

Huh.

Was Obama there? Did he express support for Chavez? Or Ayers' ideas as expressed there?

Did you even NOTICE how your "article" - for it is more of a screed, in reality - went from talking in the intro about what "Ayers AND Obama want to IMPOSE on the nation's schools" to a detailed account of Ayers' trip to Venezuela, and the educators' conference there. It goes to great lengths to remind us that this was NOT when Obama was eight years old, but rather only two years ago, in 2006. And then, without any proof, or evidence of any kind....slips back to talking about Ayers AND Obama, and their supposedly shared goal of "socialist revolution" which THEY "have worked to bring to America."

I guess the authors of the screed must have been hoping no one would notice the sleight of hand; introduce Obama and Ayers, start talking immediately about what AYERS has done....and how allegedly awful it all is....and then, without any evidence that Obama had any connection to it whatsoever, or agrees with the ideas or anything else....bring Obama back into the story, and claim that all the preceding stuff about Ayers is now something that BOTH Ayers AND Obama "have worked to bring to America."

This is birdcage-liner, alicia. Or it would be if it were in print. Seriously, it's hardly even worth refuting; on the order of the stuff patriot08 posts up.

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Wed, 10-08-2008 - 11:37pm

Alicia, this is six weeks old.

It's not "all coming out now," it's yesterday's fishwrap: stale and smelly. And nobody's buying it, at least not as an indictment of Obama. Everything in it - in all of the last two or three Ayers-related items-of-silliness you've tossed up - that mentions Obama is speculative and derogatory ("how long before Ayers is named secretary of education???")

Honestly, this is junk. It might say something negative about Ayers in some people's opinion...but not about Obama, except perhaps in the minds of people - like yourself - who already weren't ever considering voting for him anyway.

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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 7:03am
she's not claiming it's all coming ou now ... she was showing me older articles that I had missed and we had a coversation about it in this thread ... she said she'd find them for me.

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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 7:40am

No, it's not bird cage liner.

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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 7:42am

Yep, 6 weeks old an I just found it.

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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 7:52am
thanks for all the articles .. I had missed a lot of them.

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Thu, 10-09-2008 - 5:38pm
Uh....yeah....still not seeing what this has to do with Obama...?

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