BO fining parents

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Registered: 01-29-2008
BO fining parents
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Mon, 10-13-2008 - 1:11am

I was watching some of the debate from last week online because i missed it. McCain brought up that Obama wants to fine parents who do not have health insurance on their children.

I'm not sure how most people feel about this, but isn't health insurance just as important as shelter, education and food. I definitely think that not insuring your children should fall into the neglect category. People can complain about the cost of health care but if you can't afford having a child, don't have one.

I guess i was wondering what others thought about this.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 02-19-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 6:02pm
And in plenty of cases people can afford it, yet choose not to. What is your point?
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Registered: 11-27-2007
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 6:56pm

And in plenty of cases people can afford it, yet choose not to. What is your point?


If someone chooses not to have health insurance, that's their own business & none of yours or the governments.

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Registered: 10-08-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 6:59pm

How do you feel about government forcing you to have car insurance (if you drive a car)?


 

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Registered: 10-13-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 7:48pm

>>> lol. What nonsense are you trying to say? I'm saying if you can't afford a child, don't have one. If you can't afford to feed a child, you shouldn't have one. If you can't afford to shelter a child, don't have one. If you can't afford to insure you're child, don't have one.

Aah...but how can you know what the circumstances will be for every situation for the rest of your life? Suppose a parent loses their job? Suppose you get a new job and your employer doesn't provide insurance? Suppose insurance was previously affordable, but simply becomes too expensive? At what point do we all get to live in your 20/20 hindsight world?

>>> I'm not advocating the killing of children. I'm advocating good parenting.

I guess in your world, for parents in a difficult situation, "good parenting" is choosing health insurance over food and clothing.

>>> I'm advocating the govt forcing parents to make sure that when their child is sick, that child will get all the medical care they need and that the lack of insurance will not hinder the medical care they receive.

Interesting...so you take a parent who can't afford insurance for their kids and screw them even further by fining them, as Barry wants to do, so that they can provide even less. Good thinking...very compassionate.

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Registered: 08-20-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 8:45pm
i agree but yet disagree at the same time. I have to say it always irked me when on pregnant type message boards, like are you pregant on ivillage, people would post things like "i think i'm pregnant" or "i want to get pregnant" but couldn't afford a pregnancy test to find out for sure. it made me wonder how are they going to support that child. But on the other hand, accidents happen, (yes they COULD be prevented but that is another argument) and it is not the child's fault for being born. maybe in our society there needs to be more errr...hands on sex ed (NOT WHAT YOU"RE THINKING LET ME EXPLAIN) where the teens who want kids have to actually help raise kids for a period of time, it may help keep the hands on education for actual sex to a minimum if the realize that sex, whether protected or unprotected, could lead to a baby. but in the meantime, people will have kids regardless of social status. maybe just more education on what it actually entails to have a baby is more in order than saying things like "if you can't afford it, don't have it" you can say that all you want but if you don't actually produce the evidence and hands on experiences they will never understand.
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Registered: 04-04-2003
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 8:48pm

Medicare truely IS "socialized" health care....Not the single payer universal system we have here.


Also, I found this interesting link:


http://cthealth.server101.com/the_case_for_universal_health_care_in_the_united_states.htm


The Case For Single Payer, Universal Health Care For The United States


Outline of Talk Given To The Association of State Green Parties, Moodus, Connecticut on June 4, 1999

By John R. Battista, M.D. and Justine McCabe, Ph.D.


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Registered: 08-20-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 8:57pm
I know one thing that would lower costs of health care, stop many of these ridiculous lawsuits to the doctors. if they did NOT get sued, and lawsuits stopped but for obvious mistakes like cut off the wrong arm, maybe docs prices would be more reasonable, and everyone would win. Our nation is so freaking suit happy, and that bandwagon needs to stop. I'm afraid to go pee because I may get sued....;)
iVillage Member
Registered: 02-19-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 9:01pm

When has the government mandated car ownership?

Plus in my state you don't have to have insurance if you are willing to post a bond in case of damage.

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Registered: 10-08-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 9:07pm

How do you feel about government forcing you to have car insurance (if you drive a car)?


Where in the world did you get that I said the government mandated car ownership?


My state is the same way about posting bond.

 

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Registered: 10-12-2008
In reply to: pie_28
Tue, 10-14-2008 - 9:11pm
There was a lady on the radio where I live the other day saying that she was furious about this.

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