and you STILL WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA?

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-10-2008
and you STILL WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA?
396
Thu, 10-16-2008 - 11:23pm

Pages

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-14-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 10:46am

Saturday, October 18, 2008

ELECTION 2008
Is Obama
a socialist?
Exclusive: Henry Lamb compares views
of candidate to principles of leftist party




.


Socialism, according to Karl Marx, is the transition between capitalism and communism. To achieve communism, Marx says, there must be continuing revolution in which the fundamental principal is: The end justifies the means.


For more than half a century, capitalism in the United States has taken a beating from the socialist revolution. Despite the best efforts of conservatives since the Roosevelt era, socialists have made great strides toward converting the nation to socialism. Apparently, the majority of Americans either fail to recognize the transition, or welcome it. The enthusiastic support for Barack Obama, especially among young people, is abundant evidence.


Obama has declared that he believes every person has a "right" to health care. The Socialist Party USA believes every person has a "right" to health care.


Obama believes that labor unions should be allowed to organize without a secret ballot. The Socialist Party USA calls for unions to be recognized without a secret ballot. (Hear Obama's words here.)


The Socialist Party USA recognizes the "right" of adequate housing for everyone. Obama trained ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) workers to secure mortgages for unqualified people in sufficient numbers to collapse the housing and home-financing industries.



The Socialist Party USA believes that "capitalism is fundamentally incompatible" with socialism. For years, Obama worked in Chicago through the Annenberg Challenge, along with Bill Ayers, to funnel more than $50 million to anti-capitalist education projects. In November 2006, Ayers traveled to Venezuela to speak at Hugo Chavez's Education Forum where he railed against "the failings of capitalist education," and praised the "Bolivarian Revolution and the profound reforms in education made by Hugo Chavez."


The Socialist Party USA believes in open borders and six-months residency as the only requirement for U.S. citizenship. Obama marched with illegal aliens in Chicago in support of "comprehensive" immigration reform. Listen to Obama's promises to La Raza in 2007.


The Socialist Party USA calls for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Obama says, "I will end this war," with never a reference to "winning" or "victory."


The Socialist Party USA calls for the "unconditional disarmament" by the United States. Obama has promised to dramatically reduce defense spending. Listen to his words here.


The Socialist Party USA calls for a "livable guaranteed annual income." Obama trained ACORN members to conduct "Living Wage" campaigns in cities around the country.


The Socialist Party USA calls for a "steeply graduated" tax policy to redistribute wealth. Obama has promised to increase the tax burden on the rich to redistribute wealth to the poor. He revealed his philosophy when answering a question from Joe the plumber, who complained that he was being taxed for his success. Obama said:


It's not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.

This list of comparisons could be quite long. This is sufficient to reveal an unmistakable similarity between Obama's political beliefs and the beliefs of the Socialist Party USA. The tragedy is that Obama's supporters don't care. In fact, many of his supporters are delighted that he promises to usher in a new era of socialism, and push the memory of capitalism further into history.


Socialists, who are in perpetual revolution, who believe that the end justifies the means, have worked through educational institutions, non-government organizations such as ACORN and by electing socialists to public office to silence teaching the virtues of free enterprise, capitalism, private property, individual responsibility and personal achievement. For nearly two generations, students have been fed a steady diet of socialism under a variety of disguises, including Outcome Based Education, No Child Left Behind, School-to-Work and a host of other "feel good" slogans.


Students and young adults no longer know why capitalism is better than socialism. Like Obama, young people really believe that when government redistributes wealth, "it's good for everybody." They do not realize that wealth redistribution is no substitute for wealth creation. They are never taught that the only way to create wealth is for an individual to combine his energy and intellect with resources to produce a product that improves his life, or for which someone else is willing to pay.


Private property, the accumulation of personal prosperity and individual achievement are anathema to socialism. Socialism sees the individual as nothing more than a cog in a government-run machine designed to ensure equity for all.


Capitalism seeks prosperity; socialism seeks equity. Freedom increases as prosperity increases. In a socialist system, there can be neither.







Related special offers:


"The Obama Nation: Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality"


"Obama Unmasked: Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?"


"The Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama's War on American Values"

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 10:54am
Speculation.
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-14-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 10:59am

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-09-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:02am

Now that is interesting. How do you call yourself a republican, yet vote for Obama? He is about as liberal as they get. What issue do you agree with him on?


Why would you vote for the candidate that is about as far as you can get from being a republican instead of the one that is much closer to republican beliefs?


I've also heard of democrats voting for McCain, but that is a little more understandable given that he is not very far right.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-08-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:15am
I can't stop you from believing that...nor can you stop me from believing that it's silly to believe that.
iVillage Member
Registered: 04-04-2003
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:43am

<<and you STILL WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA?>>


No....but I'd like it a majority if you guys did.


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-04-2003
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:46am

Have I mentioned that I generally find your posts very reasonable and thoughtful? Just thought I'd put that out there. :o)


iVillage Member
Registered: 10-14-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 11:50am

Odinga had a pact with hard-line Islamists that if he won the election, he would put the country under Sharia Law! (see copy below)

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-03-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 12:06pm
Nothing but more Propaganda. YES, I will still vote for Obama.
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-14-2008
Sat, 10-18-2008 - 12:09pm
The Spectator



Pinch yourself



Tuesday, 14th October 2008













The contrast between, on the one hand, the huge amount of material about Obama’s radical associations that has been published in on-line journals and in a few brave newspapers, and on the other the refusal by big media to address it and to vilify those who do, becomes more astounding by the day. The Obamaniacs are spinning the relationship between Obama and William Ayers, former of Weather Undergound Terrorism Inc, as of no consequence because this was supposedly a chance acquaintance and because the educational project they worked on, the Annenberg Challenge, was a worthy one.


Stanley Kurtz
now nails that canard by showing how, through the Annenberg Challenge, Obama and Ayers channelled funds to extremist anti-American Afrocentric ‘educational’ programmes which were a carbon-copy of the world view of Pastor Jeremiah Wright, Obama’s black racist mentor who, under pressure, Obama was forced to repudiate.

Pages