and you STILL WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA?

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Registered: 10-10-2008
and you STILL WANT TO VOTE FOR OBAMA?
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Thu, 10-16-2008 - 11:23pm

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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
Sat, 10-25-2008 - 11:50pm

>>> Wow, you have all the answers.

Why, thank you.

>>> First off, where does he get the money from for business courses?

Government loans? Personal loans? Grants? Often a business will pay for, or help pay for additional education classes. There’s a lot of help out there, but it usually doesn’t walk up and knock on your door.

>>> He did work for a place that made stairs, they went out of business because of the economy and housing industry. My son likes working with his hands. I don't think everybody is cut out for DESK work.

The reality is that “desk work” pays more than “unskilled labor.” But it’s his choice to have a particular career and earn a particular salary…but he shouldn’t complain about the realities of a situation he chose to be in…and that you endorse.

>>> The company he works for does a lot of government work. He has made flashlights for the military. His career isn't stagnant, but there have to be some people who work for companies, and those who OWN the company. If everybody did what you say they should do, and everybody was successful as you say they could be, who would do the work? Robots? Now thers' a novel idea, make robots to do the work (rolls eyes)

They already have robots to do a lot of the work…it’s called automation, and it’s something that unskilled people seem to have a BIG problem with. But to your other point… difference between the people who OWN the company and the people who are EMPLOYED by the company is simple ambition and passion.

>>> I'm trying to make my grandson realize the importance of an education, but he is 10 years old, I'm trying, though!

More power to you.

>>> Whether you want to believe it or not, many got wealthy by cheating others, does ENRON ring a bell?

Sure…it happens all the time…and?

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-27-2001
Sat, 10-25-2008 - 11:55pm
we will elect the person least likely to attract danger: John McCain.

Who knew that it would come down to hiding behind someone's skirts because we've been successfully frightened away from standing by our convictions?


What a shame.


I'm voting for Obama.


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iVillage Member
Registered: 07-03-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 12:05am

So, now you are calling my son "unskilled" Sheesh! Yes, I guess some pencil pushers make more. I'm sure in time his employer will give him a chance to further himself. He hasn't been at this job that long, only about 7 months. Believe me, my son is skilled. Yes, I know it doesn't walk up and knock on your door. But, he has responsibilities of my grandson, you don't think he wants to spend some time with him?


iVillage Member
Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 12:40am

This from a post quite a while ago with a similar tone....

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 12:42am

>>> So, now you are calling my son "unskilled" Sheesh!

You said he makes "stairs" and "flashlights"...and while those jobs, like all jobs, require a knowledge of the process, they are not considered "skilled labor."

>>> Yes, I guess some pencil pushers make more.

Yes, generally speaking, pencil pushers make more than line laborers...which is why I suggested your son explore opportunities in management.

>>> I'm sure in time his employer will give him a chance to further himself. He hasn't been at this job that long, only about 7 months.

Your son can move to his own clock, rather than waiting for the generosity of his employer.

>>> Believe me, my son is skilled. Yes, I know it doesn't walk up and knock on your door. But, he has responsibilities of my grandson, you don't think he wants to spend some time with him?

Time is important...but so it quality of life. Taking some of that time to improve the qualify of life can, apparently, change a lot of lives in your family.

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 12:45am
ah yes, thought I recognized this
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:01am
Not surprising...common sense is easily recognized. We conservatives just can't understand why so many on the left refuse to employ it, preferring to simply "cruise" through life in blissful ignorance. LOL!
iVillage Member
Registered: 09-26-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:03am
n/t
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-28-2006
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:32am
Well, I've done all of the above and still can't afford groceries.
iVillage Member
Registered: 07-28-2006
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:39am
You obviously haven't spent half an hour in an "inner city" school.

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