McCain phone message about Ayers

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Registered: 10-13-2008
McCain phone message about Ayers
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Sat, 10-18-2008 - 9:19am

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Republicans launched an enormous wave of phone calls Thursday blasting Sen. Barack Obama for "having worked closely with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers," party sources said.


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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-12-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:27pm

Most of his ads are positive?

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-13-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:28pm

I don't get the feeling that Obama intentions are to help lazy people who want free hand outs....I think he clearly states

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-12-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:28pm
so no links then? No corroborating evidence?

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-08-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:29pm

Living in a battleground state, we are inundated with televisions ads by both candidates.

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-12-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:29pm
Neither of those polls address the question I asked her.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-12-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:30pm
Did you miss what I said?

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-14-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:33pm
Oh so to be maverick to you is voting against anyone in your party?


No....but then that's not what I SAID, either. To me, being a "maverick" means just what I said it means: mavericks are people who

....don't stick their finger in the political winds before they make speeches or even answer questions regarding their support for (or opposition to) either specific policies or other politicians.


I thought that was pretty clear, but if not, what it means is someone who stands up for something they believe in regardless of how many of their peers or anyone else is for OR against it. Someone who doesn't let an idea's popularity or the names of the other supporters (or opponents) of it determine how THEY feel about it. Voting against one's own party isn't NECESSARILY "maverick-y," (although it certainly CAN be). At it's base, it's little more than contrarianism. Voting the way you believe, regardless of what others say it makes you look like? That's what's actually maverick-y.

What's important is not necessarily the number of times someone's voted with or against their own party, but the quality of the votes they DID cast. That's why the "voted with Bush 90% of the time" line that Obama's been using since McCain proudly trumpeted it repeatedly to the press in an attempt to curry favor with the conservative base of the Republican party, is so damaging to McCain: not because it shows that McCain voted with Bush so much, but because so many of Bush's votes and policies are being revealed through the passage of time to be such gilded turds. If Bush's votes and policies were universally (or at least largely) seen as wonderful things, then voting with him 90% of time would be seen as equally wonderful. But they're not. And that's why having repeatedly told the press that he'd voted with Bush 90% of the time was - and remains - so damaging to McCain: because it reveals his poor judgment and lack of "maverick-y" vision.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-14-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:34pm

Ah. So even though you said "Having all branches of govt under one party is not good. They need checks and balances," you still voted for giving Bush MORE time with his party in control of BOTH houses of congress.

Got it.


iVillage Member
Registered: 10-08-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:44pm

OP:

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-12-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 2:48pm

This is the statement she made that I was responding to.



To a post saying that even Powell thinks Ayers is a non-issue, you say, "It is his opinion."


In fact, it is the majority opinion, one we hear over and over again; not just the opinion of one man.

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