Joe upset but McCain won't let go

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Registered: 10-12-2008
Joe upset but McCain won't let go
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Sun, 10-19-2008 - 3:02pm

Today in USA Today:
(((NEW YORK (AP) — "Joe the Plumber" is lashing out at the media for analyzing his personal life since he suddenly became a focal point of the presidential race last week.

Joe Wurzelbacher, a plumber from Holland, Ohio, told Mike Huckabee on his Fox News talk show Saturday that he is upset by the attention and has been unable to work with reporters crowded on his front lawn.

"The media's worried about whether I've paid my taxes, they're worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America," Wurzelbacher told the former Republican presidential hopeful on his show, Huckabee.)))

But McCain won't stop bringing his name up in his rally's - so how is that helping Joe? Or is he just using him for political gain? So who is using Joe - Obama or McCain?

In the Raliegh News and Observer:

(((In Concord, McCain delivered a 30-minute speech interrupted by chants of "U-S-A, U-S-A!" and a roar at every mention of vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin. He pledged to rein in spending, explore new energy sources and help troubled homeowners by buying up bad mortgages.

He invoked Joe the Plumber nearly a dozen times.

Wurzelbacher, an aspiring small-business owner, had asked Obama on a campaign stop this month whether his tax plan would hurt him. Obama gave a detailed explanation of his proposal and said by giving tax breaks to more people, it would help small business.

"Right now, everybody's so pinched ... ," Obama told him. "And I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

McCain has pounced. His campaign passed out posters that read, "I'm Joe the Plumber" and "Let Joe keep his dough."

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 4:53pm
It won't backfire on MCCAIN! LOL! The only people trying to blame McCain for this are the people who would have NEVER voted for McCain. It will only help McCain with the rest...
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 4:55pm

He was NOT mocking Joe, he was mocking the notion that McCain was fighting for a plumber.

http://messageboards.ivillage.com/iv-elpoliticsto/message.asp?webtag=iv-elpoliticsto&msg=17575.72

Here I posted the ENTIRE quote and the ENTIRE video, not the half sentence that right wing bloggers are crowing about.

And asking rhetorically how many plumbers make $250,000 a year is NOT mocking. He is trying to make the point that his tax cuts will help people who make LESS than $250,000 a year. I say there are MORE plumbers in the under 250 category than in the over 250 category. And I am not mocking anyone in saying that, just pointing out an obvious fact.

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Registered: 10-08-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 4:59pm

I personally think the independents that McCain needs to reach will not be impressed by Joe or McCain's use of Joe as an example, just as I don't think the independents have been buying all of the rest of McCain's negative attacks on Obama.

 

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:01pm
I don't think you would have to employ very many plumbers at all to earn over 250,000 per year. If you own a plumbing business which employs, say 6 plumbers, you could easily earn over $250,000 per year. That's a SMALL BUSINESS. In order to pay the extra 30K in taxes and mandatory insurance coverage for each employee, one of those employees cold easily have to be let go. This is a PRIME example of how Obama's plan will harm small business and wreck the economy. Instead of growing small businesses, they are punished for their success in order to "spread the wealth around'. That is a socialist concept.
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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:05pm
Don't you mean, you HOPE? Actually McCain is coming up in the polls more and more every day.
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Registered: 10-08-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:06pm

Let's see what tomorrow's polls bring.


 

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:07pm

I hardly think a 3% increase on the portion OVER $250,000 is going to destroy this country or small business'es.

Get a grip.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:13pm
Paying an extra $30,000 (and up) in taxes along with mandatory health care coverage will cost jobs. Too many lost jobs will turn our recession into a depression.


Edited 10/19/2008 5:15 pm ET by chillychillychilly
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Registered: 03-27-2003
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:29pm
Where are you getting that $30,000 figure from ?
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Registered: 07-03-2008
Sun, 10-19-2008 - 5:43pm

So, maybe that 250,000 is what the owner can take from his business, but I doubt that. He would have to be doing some very huge plumbing contracts. Like I said, maybe if he was also an HVAC/Plumbing business, I could see his BUSINESS earning in excess of 250,000, but not him personally.

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