"Gird your loins" say Biden

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"Gird your loins" say Biden
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 2:18pm

Senator Biden is forecasting a serious threat to our nation.

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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:01pm

Did you somehow miss that that brave man General Powell went nationally

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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:13pm

I knew Biden was an idiot, but this takes the cake. This is something that I have been worried about since Obama's nomination (we've discussed it on the board) how rogue nations will test a president that they consider weak - Just like they did John F. Kennedy. NOW Biden draws out attention to it! Absolutely amazing. Doesn't it make more sense to put a president in that WON'T BE TESTED????

Here's the story:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/10/biden-to-suppor.html

Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables"

October 20, 2008 7:35 AM

ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than – think about it, literally, think about it – this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here," he joked.

"All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place," he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. "We have the ability to straighten it out. It's gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us."

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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:26pm

They tested President Clinton several times and by his responses, judged us as a "paper tiger". That is why they tested George W. Bush in his first year in office with 9-11. Since, they haven't done anything like that again, I'd say he passed that test. I don't think they will test John McCain, because he has a proven record of strength and sound foreign policy decisions.

If you were around to remember, they released the hostages immediately when Ronald Reagan was elected. They weren't going to mess with him.

Kennedy (as Biden mentions) was tested and that was the closest we have ever come to getting nuked. In these dangerous times we cannot afford a test like that for Obama, Joe knows it, and is warning us that it is sure to happen.

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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:30pm
They may be non-partisan, but they aren't stupid. They aren't as likely to test a proven leader who stands for peace through strength. An inexperienced war protester, they will not respect, and WILL test. Joe Biden knows this and he is trying to warn us now.
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:32pm
Reagan wasn't tested?
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:33pm
And if it does, please don't say I told you so and be as mean as we were to President Bush.
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:33pm
gm-marla - Please post the source/link for all these things which you have stated that Joe Biden said.
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:39pm
Tango, it's all over the news, but I think ABC broke the story.
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:42pm

When he was first elected they were afraid and released the hostages. You are correct that later they tested him and he failed the test, which was part of the reason that we were viewed as a "paper tiger". Then Bill Clinton added to the view, which all led up to 9-11. Those tests, however, are NOTHING compared to the Cuban Missile Crisis, like Biden is saying. We came very close to having Florida nuked off the map.

I am afraid to have another weak president. We have been able to feel safe again under President Bush. I don't want to go back to a weak president. It is deadly in these dangerous times.




Edited 10/21/2008 11:31 am ET by chillychillychilly
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Mon, 10-20-2008 - 4:48pm

Amazing, isn't it. He knows how dangerous this untested, inexperienced, man is for our country and he knows what is going to happen within the first 6 MONTHS!

I hate to say this, but the only poetic justice in this is the fact that the target will most likely be New York again. I don't want to seem cold blooded, but I don't think I can feel as sorry for them this time. If Obama is elected and I lived there, I would move out as fast as I could.