Sad when you try to scare old people

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Sad when you try to scare old people
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 8:02am

into voting for you ....


Obama's False Medicare Claim

October 20, 2008

Updated: October 21, 2008

He accuses McCain of proposing to cut benefits. Not true.

Summary

In a TV ad and in speeches, Obama is making bogus claims that McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare spending and to reduce benefits.


  • A TV spot says McCain's plan requires "cuts in benefits, eligibility or both."


  • Obama said in a speech that McCain plans "cuts" that would force seniors to "pay more for your drugs, receive fewer services, and get lower quality care."


  • Update, Oct. 21: A second Obama ad claims that McCain’s plan would bring about a 22 percent cut in benefits, “higher premiums and co-pays," and more expensive prescription drugs.
These claims are false, and based on a single newspaper report that says no such thing. McCain's policy director states unequivocally that no benefit cuts are envisioned. McCain does propose substantial "savings" through such means as cutting fraud, increased use of information technology in medicine and better handling of expensive chronic diseases. Obama himself proposes some of the same cost-saving measures. We're skeptical that either candidate can deliver the savings they promise, but that's no basis for Obama to accuse McCain of planning huge benefit cuts.

Analysis

The Obama campaign began the Medicare assault with a 30-second TV ad released Oct. 17, which it said would run "across the country in key states."



Obama-Biden Ad:
"It Gets Worse"

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Announcer: John McCain’s health care plan … first we learned he’s going to tax health care benefits to pay for part of it.

Now the Wall Street Journal reports John McCain would pay for the rest of his health care plan “with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid.”

Eight hundred and eighty-two billion from Medicare alone. “Requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both.”

John McCain … Taxing Health Benefits … Cutting Medicare. We Can’t Afford John McCain.

Obama: I’m Barack Obama and I approved this message.
The ad quotes the Wall Street Journal as saying McCain would pay for his health care plan with "major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid," which the ad says would total $882 billion from Medicare alone, "requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both."

Obama elaborated on the theme Oct. 18 in a stump speech in St. Louis, Mo., claiming flatly that seniors would face major medical hardships under McCain:

Obama, Oct. 18: But it turns out, Senator McCain would pay for part of his plan by making drastic cuts in Medicare -$882 billion worth. Under his plan, if you count on Medicare, you would have fewer places to get care, and less freedom to choose your doctors. You'll pay more for your drugs, receive fewer services, and get lower quality care.
Update, Oct. 21: A second and even more misleading Obama ad begins: “How will your golden years turn out?” It states flatly that McCain’s plan would mean a 22 percent cut in benefits, higher premiums, higher co-pays, and more expensive prescription drugs, and claims that both nursing home care and a patient’s choice of doctor could be affected.

As the narrator says that McCain's plan "means a 22 percent cut in benefits,”

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Registered: 03-19-2003
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:28am

I respect your opinion but that's not what the post was about or my dispute.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:31am

I wish they had an icon that was both 'thumb up' and 'thumb down'.

~ SW

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Registered: 10-08-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:35am

Thanks for giving me the site of the OP, which I found.

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Registered: 07-03-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:38am
Well, this old person is scared. I am scared if McCain should somehow win that my Dh will have to pay tax on his Health ins benefits. I feel that McCain would like to slowly ease the employer benefits programs so that the workers have to buy ins on their own. Giving someone 5,000 for a family when the cost for most ins is 12,000 a year is preposterous. We pay 4,500 now. Knowing the way my Dh's boss is he would eventually drop the ins benefits if he could, as would many other smaller businesses. My Dh works for a multi million dollar "small business" they have 60 employees. McCain doesn't have to worry, he will be taken care of by the taxpayers for the rest of his life. Plus Cindy's millions.
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:38am
Yeah it is - kind of like my 75 year old dad asking me
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Registered: 08-25-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:39am
Standard democrat practice.
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Registered: 03-19-2003
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:39am

I know you're not being sarcastic .. a lot of info has been said/posted and it's hard to keep up with it all.

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Registered: 03-19-2003
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:40am

yes, I've already stated I didn't like the wording of that ad.


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Registered: 07-03-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:45am
Unfortunately, the LAW allows them to do this. This LAw needs to be changed. I'm sick of the "mind games" that Politicians play with us. The law needs to state. "Politicians running for office may only present their policies, they may not distort the other candidates policies" Americans should be able to not be barraged with negative adds from either party. I'm sick of the Mind games!
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Registered: 03-30-2007
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:50am
Come to Ohio.

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