Sad when you try to scare old people

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Sad when you try to scare old people
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 8:02am

into voting for you ....


Obama's False Medicare Claim

October 20, 2008

Updated: October 21, 2008

He accuses McCain of proposing to cut benefits. Not true.

Summary

In a TV ad and in speeches, Obama is making bogus claims that McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare spending and to reduce benefits.


  • A TV spot says McCain's plan requires "cuts in benefits, eligibility or both."


  • Obama said in a speech that McCain plans "cuts" that would force seniors to "pay more for your drugs, receive fewer services, and get lower quality care."


  • Update, Oct. 21: A second Obama ad claims that McCain’s plan would bring about a 22 percent cut in benefits, “higher premiums and co-pays," and more expensive prescription drugs.
These claims are false, and based on a single newspaper report that says no such thing. McCain's policy director states unequivocally that no benefit cuts are envisioned. McCain does propose substantial "savings" through such means as cutting fraud, increased use of information technology in medicine and better handling of expensive chronic diseases. Obama himself proposes some of the same cost-saving measures. We're skeptical that either candidate can deliver the savings they promise, but that's no basis for Obama to accuse McCain of planning huge benefit cuts.

Analysis

The Obama campaign began the Medicare assault with a 30-second TV ad released Oct. 17, which it said would run "across the country in key states."



Obama-Biden Ad:
"It Gets Worse"

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Announcer: John McCain’s health care plan … first we learned he’s going to tax health care benefits to pay for part of it.

Now the Wall Street Journal reports John McCain would pay for the rest of his health care plan “with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid.”

Eight hundred and eighty-two billion from Medicare alone. “Requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both.”

John McCain … Taxing Health Benefits … Cutting Medicare. We Can’t Afford John McCain.

Obama: I’m Barack Obama and I approved this message.
The ad quotes the Wall Street Journal as saying McCain would pay for his health care plan with "major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid," which the ad says would total $882 billion from Medicare alone, "requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both."

Obama elaborated on the theme Oct. 18 in a stump speech in St. Louis, Mo., claiming flatly that seniors would face major medical hardships under McCain:

Obama, Oct. 18: But it turns out, Senator McCain would pay for part of his plan by making drastic cuts in Medicare -$882 billion worth. Under his plan, if you count on Medicare, you would have fewer places to get care, and less freedom to choose your doctors. You'll pay more for your drugs, receive fewer services, and get lower quality care.
Update, Oct. 21: A second and even more misleading Obama ad begins: “How will your golden years turn out?” It states flatly that McCain’s plan would mean a 22 percent cut in benefits, higher premiums, higher co-pays, and more expensive prescription drugs, and claims that both nursing home care and a patient’s choice of doctor could be affected.

As the narrator says that McCain's plan "means a 22 percent cut in benefits,”

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:52am

I reckon factcheck.org does it overall.


I'm fortunate I've seen little neg ads from either side ... I've seen it FROM both but not a ton.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:54am

Sandy, help me again.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:03am

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:10am

Here in Texas it is a political ad 'wasteland', at least as far as the National election goes.

~ SW

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:15am
Exactly Sandy.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:18am

I'd prolly dvr every single thing I wanted to watch and ff through ALL ads and commericals .. although that would mean I'd have to get a dvr, lol.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:26am
Thank you and, yes, you have.
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:29am
Sandy my mother in law is here from Georgia and she says that the ads there are few and far between.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 11:25am
LOL - we just got a new digital cable box with built-in DVR (DW had to have it so she wouldn't miss any episodes of What Not to Wear :o) ).

~ SW

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 1:19pm

Who's scaring old people?

I just received a phone call from my 91 yo mom who, on Monday, voted for Obama. She called me all worried that she'd done the wrong thing. Why? Because later that day she got a flyer in the mail about Ayers and how Obama was friends with the terrorists. She asked me, "Did I do the wrong thing in voting for Obama?"

I assured her it was just the RNC, BS machine at work, and that she'd voted for the right person. As confused as many elderly are to begin with, I consider it elder abuse when a campaign sends out mail like that.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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