Sad when you try to scare old people

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Sad when you try to scare old people
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 8:02am

into voting for you ....


Obama's False Medicare Claim

October 20, 2008

Updated: October 21, 2008

He accuses McCain of proposing to cut benefits. Not true.

Summary

In a TV ad and in speeches, Obama is making bogus claims that McCain plans to cut $880 billion from Medicare spending and to reduce benefits.


  • A TV spot says McCain's plan requires "cuts in benefits, eligibility or both."


  • Obama said in a speech that McCain plans "cuts" that would force seniors to "pay more for your drugs, receive fewer services, and get lower quality care."


  • Update, Oct. 21: A second Obama ad claims that McCain’s plan would bring about a 22 percent cut in benefits, “higher premiums and co-pays," and more expensive prescription drugs.
These claims are false, and based on a single newspaper report that says no such thing. McCain's policy director states unequivocally that no benefit cuts are envisioned. McCain does propose substantial "savings" through such means as cutting fraud, increased use of information technology in medicine and better handling of expensive chronic diseases. Obama himself proposes some of the same cost-saving measures. We're skeptical that either candidate can deliver the savings they promise, but that's no basis for Obama to accuse McCain of planning huge benefit cuts.

Analysis

The Obama campaign began the Medicare assault with a 30-second TV ad released Oct. 17, which it said would run "across the country in key states."



Obama-Biden Ad:
"It Gets Worse"

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Announcer: John McCain’s health care plan … first we learned he’s going to tax health care benefits to pay for part of it.

Now the Wall Street Journal reports John McCain would pay for the rest of his health care plan “with major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid.”

Eight hundred and eighty-two billion from Medicare alone. “Requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both.”

John McCain … Taxing Health Benefits … Cutting Medicare. We Can’t Afford John McCain.

Obama: I’m Barack Obama and I approved this message.
The ad quotes the Wall Street Journal as saying McCain would pay for his health care plan with "major reductions to Medicare and Medicaid," which the ad says would total $882 billion from Medicare alone, "requiring cuts in benefits, eligibility, or both."

Obama elaborated on the theme Oct. 18 in a stump speech in St. Louis, Mo., claiming flatly that seniors would face major medical hardships under McCain:

Obama, Oct. 18: But it turns out, Senator McCain would pay for part of his plan by making drastic cuts in Medicare -$882 billion worth. Under his plan, if you count on Medicare, you would have fewer places to get care, and less freedom to choose your doctors. You'll pay more for your drugs, receive fewer services, and get lower quality care.
Update, Oct. 21: A second and even more misleading Obama ad begins: “How will your golden years turn out?” It states flatly that McCain’s plan would mean a 22 percent cut in benefits, higher premiums, higher co-pays, and more expensive prescription drugs, and claims that both nursing home care and a patient’s choice of doctor could be affected.

As the narrator says that McCain's plan "means a 22 percent cut in benefits,”

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Registered: 03-19-2003
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 1:25pm

and again ... I disagree with that tactic TOO.


not instead of, but as well as.

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Registered: 10-12-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 1:26pm
Sorry but Obama is indeed airing a LIE on national television.

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Registered: 10-25-2006
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 1:35pm
Is it airing on FOX? That's one I never watch. Didn't see it on CNN or MSNBC last night, but then I don't pay attention to the ads anyhow...unless they have spooky music.

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Registered: 10-20-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 1:44pm
Perhaps if Republicans didn't keep trying to privatize or reduce it every time they got into power, you'd see less of that.

As President Eisenhower himself once put it:

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.


Word, Ike. Word.

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 2:39pm

You really have to love those democrat lies...


The republicans haven't attempted to reduce social security... the have attempted to reduce the rate of increase in it.


As for privatizing it, if I could get out of the system, I would.

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Registered: 10-12-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:22pm
It is running on CBS in NC.

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Registered: 04-02-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:28pm
yes that is gross
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Registered: 01-02-2005
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:36pm

And the republicans tend to use..............medicare/healthcare too, as well as "moral" stuff like the pro-life agenda, banning gay marriage.....oh and since 9-11, TERRORISM.

 

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Registered: 01-02-2005
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:39pm
Unfortunately, the LAW allows them to do this. This LAw needs to be changed. I'm sick of the "mind games" that Politicians play with us. The law needs to state. "Politicians running for office may only present their policies, they may not distort the other candidates policies" Americans should be able to not be barraged with negative adds from either party. I'm sick of the Mind games!



 

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Registered: 04-02-2008
Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:40pm
Senator Obama has the same benefits as Mccain.

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