Are all right wingers paranoid?

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:10am

What do you make of the right-wing paranoia? Is it pervasive enough to take seriously? How do you make sense of conservatives concerns about how to take care of their families if Obama becomes president?

As it becomes more and more clear that Obama is likely to win the conservatives are becoming more desperate. They need avenues to vent and a Conspiracy Theory feels that void.

But the whole idea is so implausible. Yet, somehow they are able to rationalize it by believing the conspiracy is real and anyone who doesn’t see it is blind.

Help me out here, is they any way to diplomatically and realistic address this stuff? Are they any conservatives out there who agree that it’s bunk?

>>By Klaus Rohrich Tuesday, October 21, 2008

In October 1962 the film The Manchurian Candidate was released to rave reviews. Directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Frank Sinatra and Lawrence Harvey, the film was about a nefarious plot that involved brainwashing, an assassin with a post-hypnotic trigger and a conspiracy to deliver the US presidency into the hands of foreign enemies whose plan it was to destroy the country from within. Eventually cracks began to appear in the plot and in the end the evildoers met their just rewards.

Fast-forward 46 years into this year’s presidential contest between Barack Obama and John McCain. Out of nowhere Barack Obama appears on the scene full-blown and manages to snatch the democratic nomination from Hilary Clinton, despite his complete lack of experience in both domestic as well as foreign policy. In fact, Barack Obama’s experience is so thin that it isn’t even possible to ascertain exactly what he stands for, given that he voted ‘present’ on over 130 Senate bills.

Yet the mainstream media have embraced Obama as the Messiah, the Chosen One, the One Who Will Bring About Hope and Change. No matter that there is no voting record or even a clear history of Obama’s activities since graduation, save and except that he was a ‘community organizer’. Most candidates for political office including those running for dogcatcher of Gnarled Gulch, Montana face close scrutiny by the electorate and especially the media.

But it appears that no amount of subterfuge and skullduggery with which Barack Obama is associated, is enough to raise any questions about his suitability to hold the highest office in the land. Call me paranoid, but suppose there is a vast left-wing conspiracy to take over the United States, there wouldn’t be a better time to do it than now and it seems that there’s no better candidate to do it than Barack Obama. << cont’d

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:41am
You notice I said "conservatives". Believe it or not (and you wouldn't be able to tell it by reading this board) there are conservative Democrats. My family is full of them. They are able to weigh facts, not just emotions. If there are unusual facts, such as the ones cited in your article, they will be noticed. That doesn't mean that they are paranoid or believe in conspiracy theories.
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:45am
Not sure if that's a yes or a no. Evading the question sorta indicates "yes" to me, as a paranoid person wouldn't want to be found out.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:46am
There are some interesting facts cited in the original article posted. That doesn't mean that there is a grand conspiracy, (other than the conspiracy by the press to get this man elected) but, based on these facts he will be a VERY DANGEROUS MAN to have leading this country. Not because HE is a bad man, but, as Joe Biden has warned us, he is inexperienced and will put this country into some real danger.
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:51am

Care to define "danger"? What would we be in danger of? Or do you just mean generic fear and uncertainty aka paranoia?

How is Obama different than all the previous presidents who took the job with similar levels of experience?

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:54am

No. Palestinians from the Gaza strip. There are others than the campaign will not disclose.

Read this from Newsweek:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/162403

The Obama campaign has shattered all fund-raising records, raking in $458 million so far, with about half the bounty coming from donors who contribute $200 or less. Aides say that's an illustration of a truly democratic campaign. To critics, though, it can be an invitation for fraud and illegal foreign cash because donors giving individual sums of $200 or less don't have to be publicly reported. Consider the cases of Obama donors "Doodad Pro" of Nunda, N.Y., who gave $17,130, and "Good Will" of Austin, Texas, who gave more than $11,000—both in excess of the $2,300-per-person federal limit. In two recent letters to the Obama campaign, Federal Election Commission auditors flagged those (and other) donors and informed the campaign that the sums had to be returned. Neither name had ever been publicly reported because both individuals made online donations in $10 and $25 increments. "Good Will" listed his employer as "Loving" and his occupation as "You," while supplying as his address 1015 Norwood Park Boulevard, which is shared by the Austin nonprofit Goodwill Industries. Suzanha Burmeister, marketing director for Goodwill, said the group had "no clue" who the donor was. She added, however, that the group had received five puzzling thank-you letters from the Obama campaign this year, prompting it to send the campaign an e-mail in September pointing out the apparent fraudulent use of its name.

"Doodad Pro" listed no occupation or employer; the contributor's listed address is shared by Lloyd and Lynn's Liquor Store in Nunda. "I have never heard of such an individual," says Diane Beardsley, who works at the store and is the mother of one of the owners. "Nobody at this store has that much money to contribute." (She added that a Doodad's Boutique, located next door, had closed a year ago, before the donations were made.)

Obama spokesman Ben LaBolt said the campaign has no idea who the individuals are and has returned all the donations, using the credit-card numbers they gave to the campaign. (In a similar case earlier this year, the campaign returned $33,000 to two Palestinian brothers in the Gaza Strip who had bought T shirts in bulk from the campaign's online store. They had listed their address as "Ga.," which the campaign took to mean Georgia rather than Gaza.) "While no organization is completely protected from Internet fraud, we will continue to review our fund-raising procedures," LaBolt said. Some critics say the campaign hasn't done enough. This summer, watchdog groups asked both campaigns to share more information about its small donors. The McCain campaign agreed; the Obama campaign did not. "They could've done themselves a service" by heeding the suggestions, said Massie Ritsch of the Center for Responsive Politics.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:55am

Geez, Louise! When Biden made that statement about Obama he himself was still in the running for President! Sheesh! Same as when Hilliary said it! Good grief! Many have said McCain's time as a POW doesn't necessialry qualify him for President either. Many seemed to vote for Bush because his Daddy was president. Many hated him as Govornor of Texas, too.


Maybe Bidnen made that comment about Obama being tested because he maybe feels the Republicans will try and pull some malarkey! Hey, if McCain would win, you don't think he wouldn't be tested? with his bomb,bomb bomb, Iran?

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:00am

Joe Biden told us just three days ago, in no uncertain terms, that if elected, Obama will be tested the SAME WAY John F. Kennedy was tested - in his FIRST SIX MONTHS. That is terribly frightening. John F. Kennedy had to face a NUCLEAR crisis, and had to convince Khrushchev that he was willing and ready to use nuclear weapons against them. Do you think Obama could be that strong?

His inexperience and perceived weakness is DANGEROUS.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:03am
Fact has meaning.
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:07am

No. I do not think McCain would be tested to that degree. Neither does Joe Biden, or Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton. The real danger we face is putting in a young inexperienced man who is perceived to be weak in the eyes of the world. We saw this with John F. Kennedy. I am not ready to face something like this again.

Joe Biden also thinks that the public will not like the way Obama handles the crisis. That is also very troubling.

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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 10:07am
Thanks for the explanation. I recently got a copy of 13 Days by Robert Kennedy, I guess I should take a look at it.

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