Are all right wingers paranoid?

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Are all right wingers paranoid?
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:10am

What do you make of the right-wing paranoia? Is it pervasive enough to take seriously? How do you make sense of conservatives concerns about how to take care of their families if Obama becomes president?

As it becomes more and more clear that Obama is likely to win the conservatives are becoming more desperate. They need avenues to vent and a Conspiracy Theory feels that void.

But the whole idea is so implausible. Yet, somehow they are able to rationalize it by believing the conspiracy is real and anyone who doesn’t see it is blind.

Help me out here, is they any way to diplomatically and realistic address this stuff? Are they any conservatives out there who agree that it’s bunk?

>>By Klaus Rohrich Tuesday, October 21, 2008

In October 1962 the film The Manchurian Candidate was released to rave reviews. Directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Frank Sinatra and Lawrence Harvey, the film was about a nefarious plot that involved brainwashing, an assassin with a post-hypnotic trigger and a conspiracy to deliver the US presidency into the hands of foreign enemies whose plan it was to destroy the country from within. Eventually cracks began to appear in the plot and in the end the evildoers met their just rewards.

Fast-forward 46 years into this year’s presidential contest between Barack Obama and John McCain. Out of nowhere Barack Obama appears on the scene full-blown and manages to snatch the democratic nomination from Hilary Clinton, despite his complete lack of experience in both domestic as well as foreign policy. In fact, Barack Obama’s experience is so thin that it isn’t even possible to ascertain exactly what he stands for, given that he voted ‘present’ on over 130 Senate bills.

Yet the mainstream media have embraced Obama as the Messiah, the Chosen One, the One Who Will Bring About Hope and Change. No matter that there is no voting record or even a clear history of Obama’s activities since graduation, save and except that he was a ‘community organizer’. Most candidates for political office including those running for dogcatcher of Gnarled Gulch, Montana face close scrutiny by the electorate and especially the media.

But it appears that no amount of subterfuge and skullduggery with which Barack Obama is associated, is enough to raise any questions about his suitability to hold the highest office in the land. Call me paranoid, but suppose there is a vast left-wing conspiracy to take over the United States, there wouldn’t be a better time to do it than now and it seems that there’s no better candidate to do it than Barack Obama. << cont’d

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:17am

I will try to say this more clearly. We INVITE a crisis of this magnitude BY ELECTING a young, inexperienced, untested man. That is HOW we INVITE this crisis.

I did not call the Biden warning an invitation to crisis. I called THE ELECTION of Obama an INVITATION to a crisis of this magnitude. It is AVOIDABLE.

Is that more clearly stated?

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Registered: 10-08-2008
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:18am

I think it is perfectly clear where you are coming from.

 

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Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:20am
Do you know how many lives WERE lost on 9/11 because of GWB's incompetence?
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Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:23am

And Reagan's build up of the military WON THE COLD WAR! Without firing a shot.


Ohh, please. Not only is Reagan the father of modern Islamist terrorism, he came as close to full scale war with the Soviet Union as Kennedy did. The right enjoys the fairy tale that Reagan stared down the Soviets and spent them into surrender. Richard Rhodes, in his book Arsenals of Folly: The Making of the Nuclear Arms Race describes how close the Soviets came to launching a full first strike on the west. I'll quote some from Rhodes.


Detente had been a product of Nixon and Kissinger, and they wanted to break with that and confront the Soviet Union. They wanted a victory over them rather than detente. The defense budget jumped by more than a trillion dollars in the first few years of the Reagan administration, the Navy moved ships much closer to Russian waters, the Air Force flew bombers much closer to Soviet airspace. The U. S also engaged in more covert schemes like getting the Saudis to increase oil production to lower the price of oil-the Soviets were living on their oil revenue at the time. It was direct belligerence, yet it had the opposite effect of what the neocons expected. You can't bully large nations with huge nuclear stockplies; it just makes them think you are getting poised to attack.


The Soviets looked at this expenditure, which was creating far more weapons than were needed to wipe out the Soviet Union, and the belligerent rhetoric, and concluded that Reagan must be preparing for a first strike. In the fall of 1983 we had what you might call a second Cuban missile crisis that people don't seem to have heard of-and some right wingers in government deny was as serious as it was. During a major NATO exercise on the ground in Europe, the Soviets were pretty convinced that the West was planning a surprise attack. The entire Soviet military went on alert, and we were very close to triggering a first strike by the Soviets. That scared the hell out of Reagan, and it was the beginning of the ideas that resulted in the Reykjavik summit. (the summit Reagan fell asleep at-DBS).


Able Archer was a NATO exercise including the major leaders from Europe and the United States in a simulated nuclear war. But the Soviets saw this as

dablacksox


Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:29am
Why no link? Did this come from one of the extremist left wing sites? Everyone knows Reagan won the cold war - without ever firing a shot. Even the most extreme left wing site will not be able to rewrite that history...
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Registered: 08-29-2008
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:32am
My concern is that people think long and hard before they invite a HUGE crisis that is comparable to Kennedy's nuclear crisis before they elect this young, untested, inexperienced man to office.
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Registered: 11-11-1999
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:33am

The possibility of Russian invading Poland is always there, except that NATO would likely step in (unlike they did during the Georgia conflict).

dablacksox


Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:33am
It is also Joe Biden's assessment of the situation. He is YOUR V.P. nominee.
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Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:46am

Why no link? Did this come from one of the extremist left wing sites?


Uhh-from my post....


Richard Rhodes, in his book Arsenals of Folly: The Making of the Nuclear Arms Race

dablacksox


Cynic: a blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.---Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary.

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Registered: 10-08-2008
Thu, 10-23-2008 - 11:49am

I notice Biden is convenient to use when what he says fits into your agenda, but that he shouldn't be taken seriously when he says something you disagree with.


 

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