Are all right wingers paranoid?

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Are all right wingers paranoid?
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Wed, 10-22-2008 - 9:10am

What do you make of the right-wing paranoia? Is it pervasive enough to take seriously? How do you make sense of conservatives concerns about how to take care of their families if Obama becomes president?

As it becomes more and more clear that Obama is likely to win the conservatives are becoming more desperate. They need avenues to vent and a Conspiracy Theory feels that void.

But the whole idea is so implausible. Yet, somehow they are able to rationalize it by believing the conspiracy is real and anyone who doesn’t see it is blind.

Help me out here, is they any way to diplomatically and realistic address this stuff? Are they any conservatives out there who agree that it’s bunk?

>>By Klaus Rohrich Tuesday, October 21, 2008

In October 1962 the film The Manchurian Candidate was released to rave reviews. Directed by John Frankenheimer and starring Frank Sinatra and Lawrence Harvey, the film was about a nefarious plot that involved brainwashing, an assassin with a post-hypnotic trigger and a conspiracy to deliver the US presidency into the hands of foreign enemies whose plan it was to destroy the country from within. Eventually cracks began to appear in the plot and in the end the evildoers met their just rewards.

Fast-forward 46 years into this year’s presidential contest between Barack Obama and John McCain. Out of nowhere Barack Obama appears on the scene full-blown and manages to snatch the democratic nomination from Hilary Clinton, despite his complete lack of experience in both domestic as well as foreign policy. In fact, Barack Obama’s experience is so thin that it isn’t even possible to ascertain exactly what he stands for, given that he voted ‘present’ on over 130 Senate bills.

Yet the mainstream media have embraced Obama as the Messiah, the Chosen One, the One Who Will Bring About Hope and Change. No matter that there is no voting record or even a clear history of Obama’s activities since graduation, save and except that he was a ‘community organizer’. Most candidates for political office including those running for dogcatcher of Gnarled Gulch, Montana face close scrutiny by the electorate and especially the media.

But it appears that no amount of subterfuge and skullduggery with which Barack Obama is associated, is enough to raise any questions about his suitability to hold the highest office in the land. Call me paranoid, but suppose there is a vast left-wing conspiracy to take over the United States, there wouldn’t be a better time to do it than now and it seems that there’s no better candidate to do it than Barack Obama. << cont’d

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iVillage Member
Registered: 03-27-2003
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:27pm

"Please think long and hard whether or not you are willing to put your country into this kind of danger unnecessarily."

Youe candidate McCain said we have nothing to fear if Obama is elected.

And was your statement an appeal to logic or emotion. (I'll give you a hint, appeals to fear is the oldest appeal to emotion trick in the book)

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Registered: 09-12-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:29pm
I was there also and the Russians backed down. So, I guess you could say Kennedy passed the test. We need someone who won't jump to quick conclusions without all the info like McCain does. Obamas' character is better suited to the job at hand. If he wasn't and based on you belief in Bidens' judgment, Biden would not have excepted the VP position.
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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:34pm

No. There are extremists on both sides. I was responding to some extremist left wing propaganda (read the post I responded to).

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:39pm

A more experienced man WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THAT POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE! Khrushchev caused this crisis BECAUSE he viewed Kennedy as young, inexperienced, and weak! Another president wouldn't have had to put the country on the brink of nuclear disaster! There hasn't been a crisis of this magnitude since! The world is too dangerous now to take this kind of HUGE risk.

And, yes, John Kennedy passed this test. He had to convince Khrushchev that he was ready and willing to NUKE RUSSIA!!! Number One - NOBODY THINKS OBAMA IS WILLING TO NUKE ANYBODY. Would OBAMA have passed this test? Why should we run this kind of risk when it's UNNECESSARY?

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 1:44pm

I think it's an appeal to BOTH. Logic: Look at history. Look at the state of the world. Weigh what a man who has had 30+ years of experience in foreign affairs, is HEAD of the Foreign Relations Committee, IS NOT A REPUBLICAN, but is in fact the DEMOCRAT'S Vice Presidential nominee has said.

and:

Emotion: Fear of what can REALLY HAPPEN, based on real true history, the state of the world, advise from people who are experienced with foreign affairs, and LOVE of country, self, and family, and not wanting to see those things potentially destroyed.

iVillage Member
Registered: 09-12-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 2:02pm
This was based on Khrushchevs' own perception and it was WRONG. What one perceives and what is reality are two different things. Now how you perceive Obama and how I perceive Obama are also different. I find your logic based in fear and I will not let other peoples fears affect the confidence I have in Obama to make the right choices for all America. What experience do you think Obama needs. You don't think Obama had tough experiences in his life and didn't have to make the tough choices?
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Registered: 10-20-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 4:33pm

>>> I see, like a shipwreck survivor you are grasping at any sign of a rescue.

Well, as a survivor I sure know a sinking ship when I see one, and your arguments are going down fast with all hands on board. LOL!

>>> OK if that non answer is what you take as support for your flimsy position I guess it's an indication of your reasoning process.

Generally speaking, I use facts to support my "flimsy position," while you apparently are content with "yawns," lies and propaganda. But hey, thanks for the videos...they proved my point. Todd Palin was an inactive member AND the AIP "began" as a secessionist movement but abandoned that cause 20 years ago...LONG before Todd every joined.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 9:12pm
Yes. It was wrong. BUT if someone Khrushchev had perceived as strong had been in office this incident WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED. It could have just as easily ended badly. Those were some VERY stressful days for America. Do you think Obama is as stong as John F. Kennedy? Do you think HE would have been able to convince Khrushchev that he was ready and willing to use nuclear weapons against Russia?
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Registered: 09-12-2008
Mon, 10-27-2008 - 1:20pm

"BUT if someone Khrushchev had perceived as strong had been in office this incident WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED."

You are making an assumption here. All we have to go on are the real facts that stand today. Obama has proven to be a cool headed and clear thinker with great communication skills that motivate and inspire others. So yes, he will be able to convey his strength and determination to do whatever it takes to protect American lives if there were to be a true threat. Besides, our presidents strength does not come from just him alone, they have (if they choose wisely) a strong cabinet and set of advisers that pull from their resources in order to provide the evidence for whatever, conclusion the President ultimately makes.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Mon, 10-27-2008 - 1:47pm
I'm not making an assumption at all. All you have to do is read Khrushchev's book - he'll tell you himself. He had a meeting with John F. Kennedy and judged him as weak. That was the catalyst.

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