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| Fri, 10-24-2008 - 3:08am |
Who is the last group of people to say ‘History doesn’t matter.’
| Fri, 10-24-2008 - 3:08am |
Who is the last group of people to say ‘History doesn’t matter.’
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Well, at every DECENT university. There may be a few out there that try to restrict what's taught and what's learned, but what a shame it is to stifle education.
What kills me is that no one on here knows what university I work at.
Weather Underground is Ayers
And that's what I call a logical fallacy!
So it's all balanced, when it comes to conservative viewpoints vs liberal. How does this factor in?
I didn't say a durn thing about party affiliation.
Thank you!
>>> Again, I was attempting to explain the concepts...like I would do in one of my poly sci papers, not defend the ideas. If you read my replies to others, you will see I find those who espouse such ideas as naive.
The naiveté I saw was in espousing the virtues of anarchy, Marxism or even Ayres’ “idealism” without the slightest inkling of their historical context or of their impact on the lives of innocent people. As I said before, ideologies aren’t benign.
>>> Marxism/communism/socialism fail because of human nature. Also I don't see very many people espousing such ideas. For someone to take over, there would need to be a critical mass of people who wanted to pursue such ideas. Trust me, the iPod generation has no interest in socialism!
Um…again…historical context. It’s difficult to “trust” someone who can’t see what’s occurring right in front of them. The US government has just begun the largest socialist take-over of banking institutions in our history. Obama has proposed a socialist agenda for his, God forbid, Presidential administration…to the cheers of the “iPod generation.” Ideologies like socialism are sold to the ignorant masses who are made to feel dispossessed and entitled. Promises are made and enemies are created to entice the great unwashed to grant the power to those who will impose their will on the rest of society…and you can watch it all on your evening news.
>>> As for your comment about Obama being a socialist, what about his platform do you find socialistic? I can't find anything that is very extreme in either direction. I wish he was more for universal healthcare, but his plan is pretty moderate, just like most every other democrat.
There’s nothing moderate about income redistribution…it’s a socialist tenet….and one that he is selling by creating class envy and class warfare. Obama also supports government run, and mandated, health care…another socialist program. His over concept of social “fairness” through government imposition is socialist.
>>> Again, I am used to writing papers in the third person, objectively, not like new commentators or bloggers. It is an academic style of writing you obliviously are willfully misunderstanding...I suspect you want to make me out to be a communist so you can support your theory that Obama supporters are communists.
Actually, I don’t think that Obama supporters are communists…I think most of them are fools who have given as much thought to who Obama really is, and what he really stands for, as you have in your “review” of radical ideologies. As for my “understanding”… the only perspective I have for understanding your point of view is via the words you write. You have clearly provided the “rosiest” view of some very destructive ideologies, so I submit that if your intent was not to endorse them, you should re-think your presentation of these concepts and include appropriate context.
>>> As for my 'endorsement' of Ayers, I do admire some of his educational endorsement. I belive Ayers is genuine in his desire to remake schools for the better. Lord knows public schools need an overhaul! But I don't endorse his activities with the Weather Underground. But I do belive people can change. Again, if Ayers truly believed in violence as a means of changing the world, I would think he would have done something violent in the recent past. Instead, he just talks about it. He seems pretty invested in his past and I find that a little sad.
Hitler was also genuine in his desire to make the world “better”…much to the chagrin of those he killed trying to do it. Ayres isn’t trying to make education “better,” he’s trying to indoctrinate his anarchist philosophies into children so he can create the social revolution from the “inside” that he wasn’t able to create by blowing up buildings…and he hand-picked Obama to help him. You, again naively, believe that people can change…but the man you support has shown no evidence of contrition. He clings to his radical, revolutionary ideologies…and finds a kinship in Obama…which, knowing Ayres, says a lot about Obama.
>>> I'm sorry you find me scary, but I think you are confusing a willingness to weigh the facts, write dispassionately about a subject and understand history with endorsing Marxism/communism/anarchy/etc.
I don’t find you scary, but rather your naïve “endorsement” of such radical ideologies and the men who embrace them.
>>> Yes and Annenberg's probably had no means of investigating Ayers prior to giving him large sums of money with their good names attached. Silly me, but I would have assumed that a family as rich and powerful as the Annenberg's would investigate people BEFORE investing in them. Didn't take them for naive, shame the Annenberg's are so gullible. LOL
The Annenberg foundation didn't "invest" in Ayres...it is a charitable fund that "exists to advance the public well-being through improved communication." When applying for a grant, Ayres, in the guise of an "educator," could easily have "sanitized" his proposals to make them sound more mainstream.
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