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| Fri, 10-24-2008 - 3:08am |
Who is the last group of people to say ‘History doesn’t matter.’
| Fri, 10-24-2008 - 3:08am |
Who is the last group of people to say ‘History doesn’t matter.’
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>>I took a peek at the website and wasn't able to find anything that said they offer a "sanitized" view of the world. Can you show us where it says that?<<
Nope, I've no doubt whatsoever that nothing I show you will help you see it at all.
>>How could teaching contradictions enhance the beliefs espoused by your church?<<
What makes you think we teach contradictions?
>>> Really? Been around liberal parents all my life, both in my parents circle and in my own,
Really? I'm sorry. ; )
>>> never met a single one who didn't teach their children values and morals but rather expected their kids to decide all this on their own without a "parental rudder"
That's not what ab.wells said...
"What a shame to limit your children's education, to not let them hear many different viewpoints and make up their own minds about what is right, and instead just telling them what is right."
...opening the door to any ol' ideology and then letting kids "decide what is right" doesn't sound like a very substantial "parental rudder."
>>That's not what ab.wells said...<<
Really?
>>I took a peek at the website and wasn't able to find anything that said they offer a "sanitized" view of the world. Can you show us where it says that?<<
>>> Nope, I've no doubt whatsoever that nothing I show you will help you see it at all.
So you're saying that you were just making things up and can't support your allegations? Got it.
>>How could teaching contradictions enhance the beliefs espoused by your church?<<
>>> What makes you think we teach contradictions?
Welllllll...lessee...there's a reason that there is more than one religion in the world, and that's because different religions espouse different things. Sooooo...and see if you can follow me here...if one religion, say Christianity, for example, were to also teach their children about Islam, they'd have to be exposing the contradictions between the two religions. At that point, the "church," would have to either endorse the parity of both beliefs, thereby diminishing their own...or explain that while many people believe many things, all of the others have got it wrong.
>>So you're saying that you were just making things up and can't support your allegations? Got it.<<
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be unclear.
>>> Really? Where did she say that liberal parents raise their children without any morals or values and do nothing to guide them?
I posted the quote...you show me where it says they do.
>>> I read quite a few of her posts and did read her talk about University students -- did she talk about children as well?
Yes, I believe that she did mention her young children.
>>So you're saying that you were just making things up and can't support your allegations? Got it.<<
>>> I'm sorry, I didn't mean to be unclear. What I was saying was that I don't have the ability to help you understand why a biblical literalist conservative Christian University will provide more of a sanitized view of the world than a Unversity which hires folks with views that are at varience with that stance if you cannot understand it from reading the website.
First of all, you're making more spurious allegations about an organization with which you've already admitted you're not familiar. Second, there no evidence that any Christian University offers a more "sanitized view of the world" than any other University...simply a "different" view. What does seem evident, is that a Christian University would promote a strong Christian value system and morality, while universities swathed in liberalism would tend to promote the mediocrity and lack of values that is so often espoused by the left.
>>Welllllll...lessee...there's a reason that there is more than one religion in the world, and that's because different religions espouse different things. Sooooo...and see if you can follow me here...if one religion, say Christianity, for example, were to also teach their children about Islam, they'd have to be exposing the contradictions between the two religions. At that point, the "church," would have to either endorse the parity of both beliefs, thereby diminishing their own...or explain that while many people believe many things, all of the others have got it wrong.<<
>>> Yes, I'm sure that is true for any church that has fundamental beliefs at odds with other faiths and finds those beliefs superior to other faith's beliefs. It just doesn't happen to be the case for my church, likely why we not only are comfortable teaching our kids what other faiths believe, but find such a practice a very important part of our kids development of their own faith statements.
A church of non-belief belief. It sounds very interesting.
>>I posted the quote...you show me where it says they do.<<
You are the one making a claim.
>>First of all, you're making more spurious allegations about an organization with which you've already admitted you're not familiar<<
Really?
>>> You are the one making a claim.
Actually, I was quantifying it.
>>> She was talking about University aged children.
She didn't specify...and as she was making references to my children without knowing their ages, I would assume that she was not overly concerned with being "age specific."
>>> I'm sorry, but weren't you the one having the conversation with her in the first place? Have you forgotten the context of your own conversation? That's just odd.
I remember the context very well. You were the one who hijacked the discussion so I presume that you have your own agenda to attend to...which apparently has little to do with what was actually said and more to do with what you wish was said.
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