An Obama funny

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
An Obama funny
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Sun, 10-26-2008 - 3:28am

Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read "Vote Obama, I need the money." I laughed.

Once in the restaurant my server had on a "Obama 08" tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.

When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.

I went outside, gave the homeless guy $10 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.

At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.

I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application.

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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-08-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 7:26pm

Sure, that's why you posted it with that disclaimer, correct?


 

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-01-2004
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 7:40pm

Well, if Obama's track record is any indication. . .Obama would not have tipped the waiter (who was working) and would not have helped the homeless man who needed help. INTSTEAD Obama would have promised the homeless man he would help him, would have taken the money the waiter had earned and kept it for himself/his friends/his political supporters.


After all, Obama funneled to Syrian millionaire Rezco federal tax money intended to help the poor in Chicago and left them with condemned homes; Obama funneled Annenberg money intended to help Chicago's inner city schools to ACORN; Obama resisted regulation of Fannie Mae, allowed Fannie Mae Administrator Raines to earn $90 million in six years, and then received more contributions from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac supporters and PACS in two years as a Senator than any other politician except Dodd - leaving Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac bankrupt and the taxpayers to pay the bill.


"Change You Can Believe In" - If you believe in transferring the change in your pocket to the pockets of Obama and his friends.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-20-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 7:56pm

Yeah, it's a good story about an isolated incident.

Here's the broader reality. The Republicans deregulated us into the worst fiscal crisis since the Great Depression, 70 years ago. The Republicans neglected the middle class, who did poorly under them. And while they were at it the Republicans rushed us into an unnecessary, incredibly costly war in Iraq for reasons that turned out to be completely false.

So try to whip people up against the Democrats by going after the random homeless guy. The middle class will vote for itself this time, thank you very much.

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-04-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 7:57pm

It's funny you mention those because I wasn't even thinking of that. I was talking about the thread started "OBAMA is one SCARY dude" which was a long post taken right off the internet and another post that was 1/2 truth 1/2 fiction copied straight off of snopes which I can't find the name of right now. Neither person put that on their posts.

It makes it seem like SOME on the right think that we will just take what is fed to us.

Seriously, if you want to discuss issues and opinions, come here. If you enjoy spreading 1/2 truths and flat out lies, go to the right-wingnut websites. There are plenty of them. There are plenty like-minded people there where you can share your fears, concerns and ideas.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:02pm

>>> Your stats are mistaken, along with the argument. The business owner probably won't see taxes increased unless they are at the top 1-2% wealthiest business owners.

Aah...so now you're re-writing Obama's "tax plan" to suit your argument? Nah...won't fly here. Obama was very clear that people making over $250K will have their taxes raised. His surrogates have specifically stated that the $250 is GROSS, not net. Unlike the false impression that Obama is trying to create, even a moderately successful small business, with just a few employees, generates income exceeding $250K.

>>> Obama will cut taxes for working people. He will take away tax credits for the richest few...

Obama has specifically stated that he will give "tax cuts" to "95% of Americans." He only started doing the "working" bit when it was pointed out that 40% of Americans don't pay taxes...so he's either ignorant of his own plan, or he was lying.

>>> Even McCain can be quoted on explaining why the richest have to pay more (pre-candidate McCain that is).

I guess that why the "richest" (laughable at $250K) already do pay 60% of the taxes. But the notion that you should take tax revenue from one "class" of people and hand it out to another "class" of people is unique to Obama's socialist vision...and a bribe to get votes.

>>> Why middle class Americans do not like someone who supports them is beyond belief to me...

I assume you're referring to McCain? LOL! Take a peek at the polls...a LOT of people do support McCain. And with this being a "Democrat year," the economy in the crapper, Bush with low approvals, and Obama with 3 times the campaign force and 4 times the money, Barry still can't close the deal...which is why he's probably got ACORN out there creating fraudulent votes for him.

>>> especially when McCain wants to tax your insurance through employers, give tax breaks to the greedy companies who swim in piles of money, and THAT is redistributing YOUR wealth to give it to those companies.

I can see how it might appear that way if you drink enough kool-aid. The facts, however, are quite different...

"McCain has proposed to end one of the largest tax breaks in the entire economy. Some 60 million Americans buy health insurance thru employers tax-free, and McCain would indeed begin to tax the value of the benefit.

However McCain also proposes to give the money back as a tax credit, $2,500 for individuals, $5,000 for families.

"Let's give them a $5,000 refundable tax credit to go out and get the health insurance of their choice," McCain said.

"It's mostly a tax break," said Len Burman of the Tax Policy Center.

The non-partisan tax policy center says except for the very richest Americans, most people buying insurance will see a tax cut.

"Families at all income levels would pay lower taxes, at least on average," said Burman. "On average, is about a $1,200 tax cut in 2009."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/15/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4451525.shtml

>>> Trickle down theory has failed to work for such a long time.

Except for all the times that it worked...like when the economy grew 20% under Bush policies...after being handed a recession by Clinton and the attacks on 9/11.

>>> Why do people want to keep trying to see when it will "rain"? How about a change to see what other experts believe will help our economy and your pocketbook.

Vote McCain. Obama is a job killer.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-20-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:07pm

"Vote McCain. Obama is a job killer."

History proves the opposite my friend. Bush and McCain's record on jobs and the economy is terrible.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-01-2004
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:16pm
Actually, the economy was doing very well until the Democrats got control of Congress!
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:22pm

>>> This is the 3rd time (in the past week) that the right has tried to pass off right-wing rhetoric as a post to make the left think about who they are going to vote for.

Good. It's nice to know you noticed. ; )

>>> We've already made up our minds. We are not afraid of Obama. After 8 yrs under Bush's dictatorship we have nothing to fear.

Sounds like very concise, rigid, lockstep thinking.

>>> SOME people on the right side might think that your post was righteous and virtuous but I don't, even though you never actually did what you said you did.

Um...did what?

>>> I might not be the most educated person here but you can see that for yourself as what I post here is true to myself.

Who can ask more than that you be true to yourself?

>>> IMHO, you can have the highest degree and the highest IQ but if you come here and try to pass off junk on the internet it isn't going to get you anywhere.

I agree...which is why we come here and present arguments based on facts instead of the "junk" we see from the left.

>>> Did you think that we were all going to think "D'oh! I get it!! I'm going to vote for McCain!"

We can hope, can't we?

>>> And do me one favor please...don't bother responding to my every sentence with your list of your responses (<<<<<<<<)

Oops. ; )

>>> Seriously, I understand now and you don't have to waste your time.

Darn, I wish you would have started your post with that. LOL!

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-08-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 8:27pm

I love how you posted on a later post that you didn't write the original post...only when you were called on it...and now are proceeding as if it never happened.

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
In reply to: mileaimn
Sun, 10-26-2008 - 9:17pm

>>> Hmm... I wonder if that waiter made more than $200,000.00 a year. What you did was nothing short of inconsiderate.

Que? You support the Obamessiah redistributing wealth, but not anyone else? Sounds hypocritical...but then, he IS the Obamessiah and must not be questioned.

>>> For your experiment to be representative of Obama's plan you should have computed the cost of related overheads for the service and meal you received, deducted this from the cost of the bill to determine profit, compute 36% of the profit an which you could pass on to the poor fellow outside. BUT before you did all this you whould have to determine that the owner does indeed fall within the tax bracket to be applicable.

Not necessary. I simply employed Obama's "fairness"principal and gave the "wealth" to the most "needy" individual in my proximity without the slightest inkling of the actual "reality" of the situation. By your thinking (and Biden's) the waitress should have seen this as an opportunity to demonstrate her "patriotism" by giving some of her hard earned money to someone who didn't work for it.

>>> In sum, the owner would be affected.

Why would the owner be affected? Obama didn't say that he was going to tax the employers of "rich people" (actually, he did, but that's another point entirely), he said that he was going to arbitrarily tax people who GROSSED over a certain amount of money and arbitrarily redistribute that money to those who did not work for it.

>>> The poor waiter who might be just making ends meet should have received his full tip.

You don't know the circumstances of the guy making $250K or of the small business making $250K...they might be just making ends meet too. Why do other people deserve their money.

>>> He is one of the people who will BENEFIT under Obama's plan.

Sure...he'll get $500 of the "rich guy's" money...and also might lose his job when Obama screws his employer.

>>> Before you embark on any more experiments you should make sure you have your facts straight. I am embarassed by what you did.

It's tough to discuss facts with people who make things up as they go along. Get a few and try again.

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