Can't Say You Didn't Hear This!!!!!!!

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Registered: 07-03-2008
Can't Say You Didn't Hear This!!!!!!!
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Tue, 10-28-2008 - 7:56pm

Now for you folks who insisted that no body yelled "kill him" at a McCain rally, take a listen to these sick radical people!


http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Supporter_outside_McCain_rally_chants_bomb_1028.html

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iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2008
Thu, 10-30-2008 - 11:35am

I was responding to : "I think Obama has run a pretty clean campaign",

 

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2008

"What those people at the table near you, they should have been reported to the FBI, seriously. You never know, they could be home grown terrorists plotting to kill Obama. "


iVillage Member
Registered: 04-04-2003

Awww....He doesn't want to sound like a racist.


<<"I'd never vote for a black man," said a Democratic McCain supporter. " want to sound racist here," said another participant, "but I do not want a black man running my country.">>

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Registered: 10-18-2008

According to figures from Campaign Media Analysis Group, in the final stretch of this campaign -- from September 12 to October 18 -- Barack Obama ran 119,101 negative ads costing more than $65 million.


Well, that's CMAG's interpretation of the ads. I don't know what ads they're referring to. The only thing Ambinder is really showing is that Obama has spent a lot of money on ads.



Misleading And Distorted TV Ads.


I can't see any of the ads Ambinder is referring to because I don't have access to the National Journal. You'll have to find some I can watch.



Barack Obama has consistently refused to personally condemn the many vicious smears leveled against John McCain by Obama supporters during this election.


There might be vicious smears coming from Obama supporters, but there is a difference between whooping them up and campaigning on them like John McCain and Sarah Palin do and ignoring them like Obama does.



From Obama surrogate Wesley Clark demeaning John McCain's military service, to Obama supporter Ed Schultz calling McCain a "warmonger," to Obama advisers Tony McPeak and Rand Beers demeaning McCain's service as a POW, Barack Obama never personally condemned any of these attacks. By contrast, early in this campaign, John McCain personally and immediately condemned a supporter's comments using Barack Obama's middle name in an inappropriate matter, and more recently John McCain defended Senator Obama from a supporter who misstated Senator Obama's ethnicity.


I don't think Wesley Clark demeaned John McCain. He simply said being a POW doesn't qualify a person for President. Nothing wrong with that. I don't know what other demeaning statements Ambinder is referring to. He's talking about a lot of smearing, but he's not providing much support for it. He's simply assuming the smears without providing them and then condeming them.



Introducing The Specter Of Race, Age And Religion. Further, it was Barack Obama who introduced the specter of race into this election by claiming, on three occasions in one day in July, that John McCain would use Obama's race -- the fact that Obama "doesn't look like all those other Presidents on those dollar bills" -- in an attempt to scare voters.


Sure Obama has talked about race and religion. I don't think that was an attempt to scare voters. Race is an issue in America. McCain and Obama have talked about race.



Even the national press called Obama out for playing the race card, and the Washington Post said Obama's charge against the McCain campaign were wrong. The Obama campaign has further coordinated a shameless and offensive campaign to stoke fears about John McCain's age.


What race card and where? What offensive campaign to stoke fears about John McCain's age. McCain's age and health are an issue. They are for any President. The issue of Sarah Palin's readiness to become President is also a valid issue. If John McCain's health and age aren't an issue, then why won't McCain release his medical records and allow the public to know what kind of health he's in?



But no sooner did Barack Obama praise the idea than he killed it. The Obama campaign refused the good faith offer for a series of town hall meetings that held the promise of fundamentally raising the dialogue of this campaign.


That's politics, not smear campaigning. Feel free to provide me with quotations, videos, or whatever else you can find that shows the Obama campaign smearing John McCain.


iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2008

"Feel free to provide me with quotations, videos, or whatever else you can find"


No, I'm not going to fwb. You'll have to find another "dog to dig up a bone and present it to you, to see what you think of its efforts".


Most of all, feel obliged to research your own candidate, to make sure your statement that he has been running "a pretty clean campaign" is accurate, when even his own supporters disagree.


A lot has been discussed on the board, look for it. Many were relieved to see him "finally taking off the gloves" (IMO he never had them on, but that's just me looking in from the outside).

 

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-18-2008
Well thanks for not wasting any more of my time. I don't want to have to respond to whole articles written by someone else because you either refuse or aren't capable of making a convincing case yourself. Since you obviously can't refute my argument, it's pretty
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2008

You made the false claim that Obama ran a clean campaign, without backing it up with anything but your "I believe"- opinion. In your words: "not a convincing case".


You admittedly haven't seen all the adds, and apparently refuse to read the board where much has been discussed to refute your claim.


If you feel that makes your position stronger, than indeed you backed up yet another false claim, that of : "It nice being liberal because the truth is always at your side."

 

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-03-2008

I would say it's the other way around "It's nice being conservative, because the Truth is always on your side" This has been the case as long as I have participated on this board. The real truth is, none of us believe what the Republicans say, and likewise, the conservatives only believe what the Republicans say. We don't necessairly believe everything that the Democrats say.


The truth is Conservatives on this board have been hammering on Obama with things you say are bad about him, his past associates, especially Ayres, if the college didn't have a problem with hiring him as a professor, why do Conservatives have such a problem with Obama being on a committee with him, could it be that maybe Obama doesn't necissiarly JUDGE people by wrong doing in their past as long as they have cleaned up their act? I mean, when Ayres was doing his dastardly acts, Obama was 8 years old. Could it be that maybe Obama wanted to help out on that particular committee regardless of Ayres?

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-17-2008

I have NO idea who you think you are ranting to. I sure can do without your ridiculous accusations fleur!


The ONLY "bad" thing I have EVER said on this board about Obama, is that he hasn't run a clean campaign. It's right here in this thread.


Enjoy your re-read.

 

 

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Registered: 03-19-2003
haven't you figured out that we are all

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