I don't think McCain has ever said- now or in 2000- that the rich shouldn't pay more taxes than others. In fact, no one has ever said that. For all the talk, the "Bush tax cuts" lowered taxes for everyone- not just the rich, which is the impression you'd get from reading the boards or listening to Obama.
The huge problem that I-- and many-- have with Obama's tax plan being "socialist" doesn't have so much to do with the rich paying more in taxes. Or even with raising taxes. My problem is that he's creating all these new tax credits, that are refundable. In other words, you get the money even if you don't have any income tax liability.
What he's doing is raising taxes on just the top two tax brackets (or so he says, although lately the numbers he and Biden have cited have changed); and instead of using the money to balance the budget or even for the programs already in place, he is going to institute new tax credits for those he considers to be middle class.
It's not that I have a problem with taxes paying for the police department or schools. My problem is he's proposing to use the tax system- which is in place to raise revenue for public projects, like the police force and public schools, for example- as a secondary welfare system (for lack of a better word).
It's a very fine and nuanced distinction, but a VERY important one.
>Regarding the "free college" ... have you ever taken a glance at the number of people who actually get to attend college in one of these countries that provides it "free"?<
Hmm, in the state of Georgia a whole lot of kids get to go to college for free. A nice little socialist program in the deep blue south.
It's called the Hope Scholarship, and it is given to students who graduate high school in Georgia with a 3.0 or better and attend a public college in the state. The only requirement aside from that is they maintain a 3.0 average in college.
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(((Yeah, socialism is what conservative American politicians accuse their opponents of advocating when
Socialism is failure.
That is how I think government works best to.
I don't think McCain has ever said- now or in 2000- that the rich shouldn't pay more taxes than others. In fact, no one has ever said that. For all the talk, the "Bush tax cuts" lowered taxes for everyone- not just the rich, which is the impression you'd get from reading the boards or listening to Obama.
The huge problem that I-- and many-- have with Obama's tax plan being "socialist" doesn't have so much to do with the rich paying more in taxes. Or even with raising taxes. My problem is that he's creating all these new tax credits, that are refundable. In other words, you get the money even if you don't have any income tax liability.
What he's doing is raising taxes on just the top two tax brackets (or so he says, although lately the numbers he and Biden have cited have changed); and instead of using the money to balance the budget or even for the programs already in place, he is going to institute new tax credits for those he considers to be middle class.
It's not that I have a problem with taxes paying for the police department or schools. My problem is he's proposing to use the tax system- which is in place to raise revenue for public projects, like the police force and public schools, for example- as a secondary welfare system (for lack of a better word).
It's a very fine and nuanced distinction, but a VERY important one.
LOL no one here ever lived true a socialist system.
Sopal
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"Socialism is failure.
Sure. I really have to run out and get my son from a play date. Don't have allot of time. I will sit down and post something tonight!
I was born in Portugal. My family still lives there. I also lived in France, and I too have family living there.
>Regarding the "free college" ... have you ever taken a glance at the number of people who actually get to attend college in one of these countries that provides it "free"?<
Hmm, in the state of Georgia a whole lot of kids get to go to college for free. A nice little socialist program in the deep blue south.
It's called the Hope Scholarship, and it is given to students who graduate high school in Georgia with a 3.0 or better and attend a public college in the state. The only requirement aside from that is they maintain a 3.0 average in college.
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