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Registered: 08-20-2008
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Tue, 10-28-2008 - 10:54pm

economy economy economy economy. That's what this election is about.

This election is a referendum on Bush and the economy. It's about Bush, with the full backing of McCain on his tax cut, big spending budgets, expensive war in Iraq and economic policy.

So if you think things are great and that after 8 years we've got a strong economy to show for Bush and McCain's economic policy, go ahead and vote for McCain and the Republicans.

If you are like the rest of us you know what happened. Bush, McCain and the Republicans deregulated us into the worst economic mess since the Great Depression. It was a giant, free-for-all spending spree for the super rich while everyone else, including the Republican "regulators", watched. Now everyone else is paying the price for the greed and incompetence that the Republicans fostered.

So go ahead and vote Republican and reward them if you are happy with their job. Or go ahead and make lots of excuses for them if you like. Complain about all the things that happened to them rather than holding them accountable for steering our ship. You know these Republicans are out there in the life boats watching everyone else in the boat go down.

Or vote for Obama and the Democrats if you want to bring back balance, competence and fairness to our government and our society.

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Registered: 09-26-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 10:00pm
hey - it takes all kinds - but, I don't want my boy ending up coughing up a lung.
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Registered: 04-02-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 10:03pm
Have you looked at the article at all?
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Registered: 08-20-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 10:59pm

Hey everyone, bottom line is if you are really happy with where you are economically and with where you see yourself and America going, vote Republican. That way you'll get more of the same.

Or maybe you are like the rest of us who see that the Republicans deregulated us into the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression, and that the party of Jack Abramoff is still chock full of incompetence, greed and corruption. We see sitting Republican Senators like Craig, Vitter and Stevens who are up to their eyeballs in legal trouble and others like Coleman who are ethically challenged to say the least.

We see denial by Republican politicians. We see the Republican Presidential candidate until just a few weeks ago telling us the fundamentals of the economy are sound and we see his chief economic advisor namecalling us a nation of whiners in a mental recession.

We see that if we do what we did in 2004- if we reelect Republican leaders - they will keep acting the way they did before, just like they did in 2004.

We see someone with new energy and hope in Senator Obama and the new Democrats running for office. We see realism. We see folks who are not spinning us at 100 revs per minute like the Republicans. Are the Democrats perfect? Heck no! Are they a heck of a lot better than these Republican leaders? Heck yes.

We can't afford the same mistakes by the same politicians. Vote for change. Vote to allow America to renew itself, and to help its people like yourself.

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Registered: 04-02-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 11:10pm
Soupy is all over the boards tonight, were any dems inoffice during the last few years.
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Registered: 08-20-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 11:16pm

"Soupy is all over the boards tonight"

And so are you!

And yes there were some Democrats in office. And no they were not in charge. The Republicans have held the Presidency for the past 8 years in case you didn't notice. Until two years ago they held Congress for a decade. They also held the Senate at the same time. They controlled everything.

And when the Democrats finally got control of Congress in 2006 the Republicans smashed the record on filibustering - yes these were the same Republicans who whined about Democrats who dared to use the filibuster just a bit when Republicans were in power. And the Republican President vetoed and threatened to veto Democratic bills like healthcare for poor kids who don't control that they happen to be born poor.

So keep trying to pass off the blame for the Republican leaders. The American people know the real story. People in charge who point fingers are usually the ones who are guilty.

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Registered: 04-02-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 11:27pm
I'd like everyone to take responsibility.
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Registered: 09-26-2008
Mon, 11-03-2008 - 11:32pm

Sure we do - I sent money to defeat Bachmann - you're welcome to send some money out here to defeat our CA candidates... LOL - this is America...

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-20-2008
Tue, 11-04-2008 - 1:54am

>>> And yes there were some Democrats in office. And no they were not in charge. The Republicans have held the Presidency for the past 8 years in case you didn't notice. Until two years ago they held Congress for a decade. They also held the Senate at the same time. They controlled everything.

My, oh my...it sure looks like Democrats blocking reform of Fannie and Freddie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGnZMGDG4k4

>>> And when the Democrats finally got control of Congress in 2006 the Republicans smashed the record on filibustering - yes these were the same Republicans who whined about Democrats who dared to use the filibuster just a bit when Republicans were in power. And the Republican President vetoed and threatened to veto Democratic bills like healthcare for poor kids who don't control that they happen to be born poor.

Was that the Dem SCHIP crapfest they tried to foist on the American people that tried to cover "kids" age 25 and families making $85K a year? Imagine those mean Republicans trying to stop that kind of "charity." LOL!

>>> So keep trying to pass off the blame for the Republican leaders. The American people know the real story. People in charge who point fingers are usually the ones who are guilty.

Right...and facts are facts...the guilty ones are the Dems.

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Registered: 10-20-2008
Tue, 11-04-2008 - 1:56am

>>> Yeah those darn minorities - why should "they" have a house anyways.

They shouldn't...unless they can afford it.

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Registered: 10-20-2008
Tue, 11-04-2008 - 2:29am

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>>> Yes, on profits. If a business is making over $250,000 on PROFITS, it is a very lucrative business.

Um...no. Obama has never said "gross profits." Taxes are levied on gross income...and Obama has set a consistently lowering amount starting at $250K GROSS INCOME down to his campaign which has said $120K GROSS INCOME. And no...a business that makes $250K GROSS INCOME isn't a particularly lucrative business...even a business that makes $250K profits isn't particularly lucrative.

>>> My brother in law makes over $150,000 in profits and lives very comfortably he also will get breaks under Obama's plan so maybe he is a welfare business owner . He is receiving breaks unlike other more profitable businesses who are making nearly double in profits. Is this a bad thing?

Yep. If your BIL only makes $150K in profits then he's got a really small business indeed and is hardly in the category of "small businesses" that are "jobs creators." If you want to get educated on small business, take a peek at this...

http://www.census.gov/epcd/www/smallbus.html

As for how Obama's taxes will impact your BIL...I don't know what kind of business he has, but most "small businesses" get inventory from larger businesses. As the suppliers are hit with higher taxes and costs, watch them raise prices on your BIL who will either make less, or pass that cost on to his clients...and in a bad economy, that might cost him business. I also don't know if your BIL has employees...it seems unlikely if he only has $150K profits...but if he did, he'd have to come up with the money to provide health insurance or pay a hefty fine...all of which affects his bottom line.

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>>> I will talk with BIL, but I am certain you don't count overhead when figuring out tax liability. It is all deducted.

As him if it will affect his business if he has to provide health insurance for employees and if all his suppliers raise their prices.

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