IMPORTANT Comparison of the Candidates

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Registered: 08-29-2008
IMPORTANT Comparison of the Candidates
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Sat, 11-01-2008 - 10:01am

I received this from my accountant:

COMPARISON MCCAIN VS. OBAMA

Favors new drilling offshore US: McCain YES, Obama NO

Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it: McCain YES, Obama NO

Served in the US Armed Forces: McCain YES, Obama NO

Amount of time served in the US Senate: McCain 22 YEARS, Obama 173 DAYS

Will institute a socialized national health care plan: McCain NO, Obama YES

Supports gun ownership rights: McCain YES, Obama NO

Supports homosexual marriage: McCain NO, Obama YES

Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase: McCain NO, Obama YES

Voted against making English the official language:McCain NO, Obama YES

Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals: McCain NO, Obama YES

CAPITAL GAINS TAX:

McCain: 0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax

Obama: 28% on profit from ALL home sales. (how does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on income from their homes as part of their retirement income.)

DIVIDEND TAX:

McCain: 15% (no change)

Obama: 39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that "higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.")

INCOME TAX

McCain (no changes):

Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Obama:

Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!

INHERITANCE TAX

McCain:

0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)

Obama:

Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.

NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA

New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!

You can verify the above at the following web sites:

http://money.cnn.com/news/specials/election/2008/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/issues/issues.taxes.html

http://elections.foxnews.com/?s=proposed+taxes
http://bulletin.aarp.org/yourworld/politics/articles/mccain_obama_offer_different_visions_on_taxes.html

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/barack_obama/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/candidates/john_mccain/

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-03-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 4:42pm
I wonder how McCain is going to pay for all he PROMISES also. I did listen to his live speach from PA, since it was in the community
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-29-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 5:24pm

I am surprised to hear someone say that. McCain handled this crisis well. He was thoughtful, knowledgeable and presidential. I think it has been the shining moment in the campaign for him.

Do you really think, from listening to this that he sounds unreasonable, or not in control?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afBPEqdVq7I

Here's How Obama handled it. This is very disconcerting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSIpU9eJwBc

Clearly Hillary Clinton thinks that McCain is capable of handling important foreign affairs such as these, where Obama is not.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-20-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 5:39pm

I give you the benefit of the doubt and am sure you don't know that some of the facts you are spreading are lies. I am sure you will be concerned and correct your post because you care about the truth, and put country first, right?

Here is one huge example to get you started in your fact checking which I am sure you will want to do rigorously:

"The radio ad claims Obama would increase taxes "on the sale of your home." In fact, home-sale profits of up to $500,000 per couple would continue to be exempt from capital gains taxes. Very few sales would see an increase under Obama's proposal to raise the capital gains rate.

A second radio ad, in English, says, "Obama has a history of raising taxes" on middle-class Americans. But that's false. It refers to a vote that did not actually result in a tax increase and could not have done so."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/more_tax_deceptions.html

Thank you for your real patriotism in playing fair this election.

Best, SD

iVillage Member
Registered: 07-27-2003
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 6:31pm

Comparing Income Taxes under Bill Clinton and George Bush


by Gerald Prante and Alicia Hansen



Recently an incorrect comparison of income taxes under Presidents Clinton and Bush has been making the rounds of the internet, showing up in forwarded e-mails and on numerous blogs and message boards. (See examples here, here, here, and here.)


This message shows that income taxes under George Bush are lower than income taxes under Bill Clinton, and it relies on Tax Foundation data to make this comparison. The author used a Tax Foundation chart showing the federal individual income tax rates and brackets from 1913 to the present to calculate the income taxes paid by hypothetical married and single taxpayers at various income levels under 1999 tax law and 2008 tax law.


While the basic message of the comparison is correct (federal income taxes have indeed fallen under George Bush for groups at all points on the income spectrum), the chart created by the author of this comparison contains some mathematical errors. Furthermore, the comparisons are exaggerated by the fact that annual inflation adjustments in the tax code would have lowered tax bills in 2008 relative to 1999 under a constant nominal income amount.


The table below presents the correct amount of tax paid by each of the hypothetical taxpayers in the comparison. Note that this comparison does not take into account the Alternative Minimum Tax, and the taxpayers in these examples take the standard deduction and do not have children.


(Click here if you're having trouble viewing the table.)






Individual Income Tax Due in 2008,
Bush Law versus
Clinton

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 03-26-2003
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 6:59pm

OK, McCain clip:

Poland, Estonia etc came to support "Misha." This means: at least by putting those countries in NATO we had some leverage, pathetic as it may be, by being able to make them go to Tbilisi.

Next segment is assorted, random mudslinging against Putin, for no discernible good reason.

Then he says that we should fast-track them into NATO. That is the same as saying that he wants to restart the Cold War. Then he makes reference to the fact that other NATO members are not keen on this move (what a surprise!), segueing right into how those "Ossetian self-defense teams" are rampaging in the Georgian countryside (IOW, it is all a Russian provocation). Lastly he tries to make Putin sound like a dictator and makes vague threat of "penalties."

Obama clip:

First a factual statement of the situation. Then a bunch of McCain. So I tried this one instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMmkIZECBeM&feature=related

Sounds reasonable to me.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-29-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 7:52pm
That's all well and good, but it was his third try. As president he will not have three chances to get things right. His first response was very weak, then, (presumably when his polling data came in) he became stronger and stronger. McCain was strong from the beginning. He didn't waver. He has had 26+ years of experience, and it showed. Obama's initial response was very unsettling. The presidency does not lend itself to on the job training. The world is much too dangerous.
iVillage Member
Registered: 10-30-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 8:08pm

Are you sure you want the Marxist/Muslim in charge of our safety?


iVillage Member
Registered: 10-30-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 8:19pm

2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON CHART - UPDATED


iVillage Member
Registered: 10-30-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 8:41pm

Obama's 'Civilian National Security force'


Very, very frightening!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s


Drudge has this on his site in red.


* Speeches in stadiums filled with mesmerized, adoring audiences - Check
* An uninspiring background before meteoric rise - Check
* Creates his own new symbols of power - Check
* Associates with racists, hatemongers and violent radicals - Check
* believes in redistributing the wealth - Check
* A propaganda machine willing to show him only in the best possible light - Check
* Uses, "glorious leader" style Agitprop posters common in totalitarian nations - Check (see German campaign poster for example)
* Wants Secret Police force - Check
* Somebody powerful people think they can control - Check
* Often dismissed as a light-weight by his opponents - Check
* Seeks to replace God with the State - Check
* People adopting his name as their own - Check
* Inspires adoration art - Check
* Appropriates symbols of past German glory - Check
* Never plans on giving up power - Check (Obama to be president for the next “eight to 10 years”)
* A narcissistic megalomaniac - Check
* Brazenly Takes credit for other people's accomplishments - Check
* Wants to build "youth" movement through Universal
iVillage Member
Registered: 08-20-2008
Sat, 11-01-2008 - 8:50pm

"Are you sure you want the Marxist/Muslim in charge of our safety?"

Your post starts out with well known lies and degrades from there.

I think it is helpful as a sad but true illustration of the outlook of many people who support McCain.

That is why McCain himself had to calm his mob by debunking your lies:

""I have to tell you. Sen. Obama is a decent person and a person you don’t have to be scared of as president of the United States," McCain told a supporter at a town hall meeting in Minnesota who said he was “scared” of the prospect of an Obama presidency and of who the Democrat would appoint to the Supreme Court.

“Come on, John!” one audience member yelled out as the Republican crowd expressed dismay at their nominee. Others yelled "liar," and "terrorist," referring to Obama.

McCain passed his wireless microphone to one woman who said, "I can't trust Obama. I have read about him and he's not, he's not uh — he's an Arab. He's not — " before McCain retook the microphone and replied:

"No, ma'am. He's a decent family man citizen that I just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues and that's what this campaign's all about. He's not .""

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14479.html