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Obama Supporters! Help!
| Sun, 11-02-2008 - 1:16am |
Obama supporters, I need some help!
I am not a gung-ho McCain supporter, so fear me you need not.
Can you explain to me why Obama's close associations with a man who says "Damn America" and "White people deserve to die" and with a man named Ayers do not bother you at all?

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My reasoning is simple.
~ SW
Thank you VERY much for your thoughtful reply.
Who is the man that said White people deserve to die... Did you know Jeremiah Wright received a commendation for the work he
You didn't answer my question.
As I said, I'm not a McCain supporter and will not be voting for him, either.
I want an honest answer to my question; not a rebuttal based on the other candidate's flaws.
Anyone else willing to tell me how they feel about Obama's associations?
I have no problem with Obama associating himself with
So, why can McCain defend Gordon Liddy, a man that, if he had not been stopped, would have assassinated journalists and gov't agents? Why is it okay that McCain sought out an endorsement from a pastor that called the Catholic church the great whore - and Hitler was sent by GOD...Hagee said that- and Parsley - who said that Islam must be destroyed? WTF? Look at the wars that McCain supports. Isn't that what he is doing?
Why, when McCain associates with a group that funded terrorists,
His so called associations do not bother me, because when I look at the facts on how he was associated to these people I do not feel like he is hiding anything. The facts speak for themselves.
What does concern me is McCain's wrong doings with Keating 5. Maybe you should be concerned about that too.
The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and early 1990s. The five senators, Alan Cranston (D-CA), Dennis DeConcini (D-AZ), John Glenn (D-OH), John McCain (R-AZ), and Donald W. Riegle (D-MI), were accused of improperly intervening in 1987 on behalf of Charles H. Keating, Jr., chairman of the Lincoln Savings and Loan Association, which was the target of a regulatory investigation by the Federal Home Loan Bank Board (FHLBB). The FHLBB subsequently backed off taking action against Lincoln.
Keating and Lincoln Savings became convenient symbols for arguments about what had gone wrong in America's financial system and society, and were featured in popular culture references. The senators did not escape infamy either. By spring 1992, a deck of playing cards was being marketed, called "The Savings and Loan Scandal", that featured on their face Charles Keating holding up his hand, with images of the five senators portrayed as puppets on his fingers.
After 1999, the only member of the Keating Five remaining in the U.S. Senate was John McCain, who had an easier time gaining re-election in 1992 than he anticipated. He survived the political scandal in part by becoming friendly with the political press. McCain subsequently ran for president in 2000 and became the Republican presidential nominee in 2008. During the 2000s, several retrospective accounts of the controversy reiterated the contention that McCain was included in the investigation primarily so that there would be at least one Republican target. Glenn's inclusion in the investigation has been attributed to Republicans who were angered by the inclusion of McCain, as well as committee members who thought that dropping Glenn (and McCain) would make it look bad for the remaining three Democratic Senators.
I hope you are truly curious, as I am going to give you my honest opinions.
In reference to Rev. Wright, I have several thoughts. In all this time, we have only heard what he said in only one sermon. No other sermon has been quoted. If he's so radical, surely in 20 years he would have made other statements worth nailing him for. Also, are you aware of how badly our country treated blacks during WWII, and later? I would be angry too. Are you aware of the medical experiments carried out on black service men? It was shameful. He lived through that era. Black servicemen, were treated worse than second class citizens. After serving their country, they came back to separate bath rooms, separate water fountains, separate waiting rooms, having to sit in the back of the bus, being afraid to speak to a white woman. So, I can understand his anger towards white people. BTW: the church he and Obama belonged to, has a large number of white congregation members also.
What Ayers did, was when he was in his early twenties. The VietNam war was highly unpopular, and demonstrations were a common occurrence. Ayers left the Weathermen when they moved to California, and became too militant for him. He has since become a respected professor of education at a respected university. He was named Chicago Man of the Year, for all the good he had done for the community. He has written some excellent children's books. So, I don't have a problem with him either.
I do have a problem with McCain's ongoing relationship with Liddy; his close relationship with Keating; his
I'm a McCain supporter but I'd like to answer too if that's ok.
The associations themselves don't bother me, I think many of them were just stepping stones in his career (very common) and not personal friendships, when he no longer needed them or it seemed they may hurt his career - he tossed them aside.
I haven't quite gotten why having a rational and nuanced outlook has become so rare in today's political climate.
We can only be said to be alive in those moments when our hearts are conscious of our treasures.
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