My Hopes Regarding President Obama

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Registered: 08-29-2008
My Hopes Regarding President Obama
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Wed, 11-05-2008 - 7:56am

Last night I was pretty depressed. I cried when John McCain conceded. I prayed for our newly elected President Obama, and for our country.

I started thinking about this man with the paper thin record, and thinking of his words, "I'm a pragmatist", and I started to feel a glimmer of hope. Is it possible that he won't push an ultra liberal socialist agenda? Food for thought, maybe his "present" votes were votes cast so that he wouldn't "tip his hand"? Maybe in good conscious he couldn't vote to the extreme left but knew that if he didn't he could never make it as far as he needed to in the extreme environment where he was traveling up the ladder to the white house?

We really know nothing about this man aside from his thin record. Maybe he won't be the Socialist leader that we expect. Maybe, now that he is in a position of power, he will seek good council and steer our country in the right direction rather than the wrong one.
I'm praying for that, because I don't want to see the country brought to her knees with another great depression and oppressive laws that limit our success and our freedoms.

I think we conservatives should put our money where our mouths are and start praying that this man will see the light, and lead our country well. I much prefer this scenario than the Jimmy Carter scenario on steroids which messes up the country so badly that he will not serve a second term and set the African American cause back for another generation.

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Registered: 10-20-2008
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 10:51pm
I'm guessing the clock started with McCain's concession speech. Russia just backed out of a missile treaty and is installing missiles (possibly nukes) on Poland's border. This was followed up by threats from Russia's new president to the US...or more probably, indirectly directed to Obama himself. Tick tock.
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Registered: 08-27-2001
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:06pm

I think the Monica Lewinsky scandal is proof that the press has no loyalty to anyone. Granted, it was Clinton's second term, and despicable behavior, IMO, but if the press was concerned about keeping a Liberal in office, they would've gone easy on that story.


We would've had a President Gore. - Not that I'm blaming the press, there is plenty of fault to go around, starting with the very intelligent man with great policies and no self-control.


Just pointing out a glaring example of how the press is not going to ignore any politicians mistakes.


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Registered: 10-20-2008
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:18pm

>>In the past two days, I've asked at least 5 libs to specifically tell us what Bush, whom they blame, did to get the country in such "bad, bad shape. I suppose that I'll get silence back from you as well.

Nah, here you go:

>>> The Iraq War

The perceived WMD threat and the policy of regime change were started by the Democrats in the Clinton administration. The Dems also vigorously supported the Iraq war. They own it every bit as much as Bush.

>>> Torture

The rendition policy was created by Clinton. The Dems supported torture as a policy except when they were able to use it to score cheap political points.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/12/09/democrats/

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/may2004/dems-m15.shtml

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-levine/democrats-cave-on-torture_b_30420.html

>>> No Child Left Behind

A good liberal idea...bad in actual practice. I blame the school administrators and teachers for putting cash before their students.

>>> Cheney

Smart guy...especially when compared to Biden.

>>> No-bid contracts with Haliburton

No other company was capable of doing the job.

>>> Refusing to sign the Kyoto treaty

Clinton refused to sign the treaty.

>>> John Bolton at the UN

Smart guy.

>>> Illegal wire-tapping

Apparently not illegal because the Dems, including Obama, supported the President.

>>> Mismanagement of Hurricane Katrina relief efforts

Criminal incompetence by the Democratic Governor of LA and the Democratic Mayor of NO.

>>> Donald Rumsfeld

Effective Sec of Defense. Was forced to deal with a military depleated by the Dems.

>>> Alberto Gonzalez

Good Attorney General...an victim of Dem partisanship.

>>> Plame's outing

Another frivolous partisan attack by the Dems. Plame was outed by Novak, who was not associated with the Bush administration.

>>> Medicare Drug Program

Sounds great.

>>> Mismanagement and underfunding of Afghanistan

The Taliban was defeated and a democratic government installed.

>>> Overuse of understaffed military forces

A necessity due because of Dem cuts to the military.

>>> Non-funded mandates

Typical Dem practice.

>>> Horrific treatment of our Iraq vets

Dealing with a depleated system left by the Dems.

>>> An $8.2 trillion debt

Much spend on national security. Much of the rest was spent by the Dems.

>>> Emergency management after 9/11

Great job.

>>> Alienation of much of the rest of the world

"New Europe" ran on pro-US tickets. As for the rest, who cares?

>>> Mismanagement of diplomacy with Iran and North Korea

Effective diplomacy...until Barry takes over then it's appeasement all the way. Weaken the US, strengthen out enemies.

>>> A nearly $1 trillion trade deficit

Dems are liars and hypocrites...nothing new.

>>> Gitmo

Dems are liars and hypocrites...nothing new.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/us/03gitmo.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&
adxnnlx=1225860887-tzN8ngKOvafbY/4aXAowtA

http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-4419208/Democrats-report-no-abuseat-Gitmo.html

>>> Secret prisons

Clinton policy.

>>> Some bizarre expansion of presidential authority

Legal and authorized by the Dems.

>>> I could go on, really I could. Anyone should feel free to disagree -- or add your own!

Please do. Your list is dramatically short on "issues" in which the Dems aren't the cause or up to their elbows.

>>> I'll be the first to say that he's not entirely responsible for each item on the list. I'm kind of a "the buck stops here" kind of gal though, and given his assertion of presidential authority, I'd say he can handle most of the blame. He's asked for it.

I'm more of a "reality" guy...I lay blame where it belongs...with the people responsible...and in most of your list, the Dems are guilty as he!!.

>>Not at all, I'm like an "Olympian of blather." LOL! I'm just pacing myself for the next 4 years. ; )

>>> By all means, then, have at it.

Didn't you notice?

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-27-2001
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:18pm

Hitler and Fidel Castro were both chosen by the people and elected into power.


That is where the similarities between these men and Obama end.

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Registered: 08-27-2001
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:21pm

Nicely done, eleeel!

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:29pm

For the last six years, I've been pretty depressed (when not hissing and spitting furious). On the nights when my son was in Iraq and I didn't know if he was safe or alive, I prayed, paced, and fretted.

I started thinking about a man who considered himself a "born-again Christian" and wondered how he could possibly reconcile his religious beliefs with the unprovoked invasion of a sovereign country which had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks and how such a man could nonetheless collude with others in his administration to give the impression that such a link existed. There were NO glimmers of hope as the same man made a mockery of the rights against illegal search and seizure, and talked about "enhanced interrogation techniques" (aka "waterboarding") Clearly there was no good conscience, no moral scruples which this man didn't feel he could find his way around in the name of "national security".

Now, after almost eight years of ignorance, arrogance, and disastrous consequence, the end of his reign of infamy is finally within sight. I find it amazing, utterly totally amazing, that his successor is being viewed with such trepidation. My son has been through the valley of the shadow of death thanks to BushCo. Obama's inexperience is a trifling point, by comparison with the "experience" of Bush.

I think it's incredibly arrogant to assume that another has not "seen the light" if he doesn't share one's ideology; and make the assumption that because his way is not the same as yours, that he needs to be converted. Ghastly, absolutely ghastly.

Gettingahandle


Ignorance is Nature's most abundant fuel for decision making.


Facts stifle the will, hobble conviction.

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Ignorance is Nature's most abundant fuel for decision making.

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Registered: 08-27-2001
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:34pm

The stock market had it's biggest one day drop for the day after an election, not a good thing.


I wouldn't focus too much on one day, when the market had risen the previous couple of days, and still remains higher than it's been for most of the month of October.

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Registered: 09-26-2008
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:42pm
I agree it is patriotic, and I hope that no one on this side would call people treasonous or traitors or say "America Love it or leave it" like was prevalent on the board from the right - oh say - for the last year and a half...
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 11-05-2008 - 11:55pm

How ineffectual can a President and party be? So your stance is that even though Republicans had control of Congress from 1994 to 2006, and the Presidency for 20 of the last 28 years, the Democrats managed to hoodwink them and maintain control of everything?

From 2000 - 2006, Republicans had control of the Executive, Legislative and Judiciary branches and they couldn't manage to undo the policies that Clinton put in place (with the support of a Republican congress.) Huh, I'd say it was time for a change in leadership if the current folks are truly that lame.

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Registered: 08-29-2008
Thu, 11-06-2008 - 12:18am
They covered for him until the DNA test came back.

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