My Hopes Regarding President Obama

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Registered: 08-29-2008
My Hopes Regarding President Obama
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Wed, 11-05-2008 - 7:56am

Last night I was pretty depressed. I cried when John McCain conceded. I prayed for our newly elected President Obama, and for our country.

I started thinking about this man with the paper thin record, and thinking of his words, "I'm a pragmatist", and I started to feel a glimmer of hope. Is it possible that he won't push an ultra liberal socialist agenda? Food for thought, maybe his "present" votes were votes cast so that he wouldn't "tip his hand"? Maybe in good conscious he couldn't vote to the extreme left but knew that if he didn't he could never make it as far as he needed to in the extreme environment where he was traveling up the ladder to the white house?

We really know nothing about this man aside from his thin record. Maybe he won't be the Socialist leader that we expect. Maybe, now that he is in a position of power, he will seek good council and steer our country in the right direction rather than the wrong one.
I'm praying for that, because I don't want to see the country brought to her knees with another great depression and oppressive laws that limit our success and our freedoms.

I think we conservatives should put our money where our mouths are and start praying that this man will see the light, and lead our country well. I much prefer this scenario than the Jimmy Carter scenario on steroids which messes up the country so badly that he will not serve a second term and set the African American cause back for another generation.

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Registered: 02-07-2007
Thu, 11-13-2008 - 10:41am

For some, it's not going to matter what action he takes, the worst possible spin will be applied at all times.

~Ghostwriter, M.A.


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Registered: 04-03-2003
Thu, 11-13-2008 - 11:53am

The right in question is

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Registered: 04-03-2003
Thu, 11-13-2008 - 12:21pm

Let's look at this another way...


"A well-educated electorate being necessary to the preservation of a free society, the right of the people to read and compose books shall not be infringed."


In this case, would you argue that the right to read and compose books is limited or restricted to those works related to education?


~mark~

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Registered: 08-27-2005
Thu, 11-13-2008 - 12:55pm
Ha,ha.ha good point. Dh noticed that as well...LOL
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Fri, 11-14-2008 - 9:02pm

As I see it, the problem with interpretations of the Second is that they do NOT address the way in which arms have developed into weapons of mass destruction. A semi-automatic can take out many people in a very short period of time, a hand gun is so compact that victims don't know they're being targeted until after the fact, and shotguns are indiscriminate killers in high population density areas, particularly when fired by those with a lousy aim.

Instead of addressing the issue, gun owners have insisted that their rights under the Second, in despite of the changes in institutions like state militias, cannot be infringed in any way; even while innocents are being killed and maimed. This is not a sustainable state of affairs in a society which is no longer predominantly rural or dependent on game for sustenance.

There has to be a recognition that our society is one of laws not arms. That the needs of the many trump the desires of a few. So far, under the auspices of the NRA and conservatives, no such recognition has been forthcoming. They fight restrictions as though we still lived in the days of the lawless West. And we get utter nonsense like "guns don't kill people" or "automotive accidents kill more people than guns do" or "if you criminalize gun ownership, then only criminals will have guns". As justification for gun ownership, those rationales are all abysmally idiotic and illogical.

It's pretty dreary to read about the mass shootings; or one more individual, usually male, determined to take out as many as possible before ending his own life.

When will the cost to a stable society be counted?

Which leads me to the last point in trying to argue about a rephrasing of the Second in the context of books/education rather than arms. The framers of the Bill of Rights already covered the issue of free speech. And the last I looked, there wasn't a book in publication which had the ability to kill, though some could be used as instructions on how to build a bomb, wire a nuclear device, take down an airliner, etc. But the net gain of books in the hands of citizens is far and away more friendly to society as a whole than detriment. Can you honestly say the same thing about guns in the hands of civilians? (BTW, that last is rhetorical. I already know how gun owners seem to have been conditioned to trot out the latest NRA line/study/legal case.)

Gettingahandle


Ignorance is Nature's most abundant fuel for decision making.


Facts stifle the will, hobble conviction.

Gettingahandle

Ignorance is Nature's most abundant fuel for decision making.

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Registered: 10-20-2008
Fri, 11-14-2008 - 10:07pm
Doesn't take office for two more months and yet has done some pretty amazing things already. But we don't get the people who are 'watching his every move' posting about that do we? Just people worried that the mother-in-law might move in, and more drama about Ayers, and where the Obama children will go to school. Looks like we are going to spend the next four years watching some posters rail against the most inconsequential details of the Obama presidency while overlooking any significant positive thing he might do. Pretty sad if you ask me.
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Registered: 10-20-2008
Fri, 11-14-2008 - 10:09pm
Be careful - you don't want to give Sarah Palin ideas about which books to ban! LOL
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Registered: 03-11-2005
Fri, 11-14-2008 - 10:25pm
I didn't cry, but I was really depressed. I did vote, but
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Registered: 10-09-2008
Sat, 11-15-2008 - 12:12am

We're military, and voted for Obama, so don't worry about us. The first several years of the war we didn't have the basics to keep our guys safe. You should have prayed for

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Registered: 11-13-2008
Sat, 11-15-2008 - 9:14am

If you voted for him, you deserve to have him!

Personally I always pray for the military and will continue to do so. I think they are going to be needing some major prayer in the next four years. If you are still around in four years, we'll see who you vote for then.

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