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| Fri, 11-07-2008 - 11:33am |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago_Laboratory_School
Obama's girls have a nice school to attend; if public education is so great, how come his girl's don't go to public school?

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Yes and sadly some of that cost is eaten up by the cost to administer the test and the record keeping associated with the administration of the test - oosts that were added to school district but do not help educate the students. In addition some of the extra money went to the mandatory purchase or new reading materials - because specific reading programs were required under NCLB, unfortunately we have found that those reading progams are no more effective that what was already being used, and in some cases are actually less effective. But the programs were in some cases chosen because of friendships and family ties to Bush.
http://www.trelease-on-reading.com/whatsnu_bush-mcgraw.html
DH informs me that our school district spends approximately $11,600 per student. DD's tuition and book fees total about $5,000.
Both our public and private school test, both use standardized tests, both administer, record, and analyze the test results. In both types of school, action is taken based on how students perform.
Going to a private school is no escape from standardized testing. You may wish to check the test scores of the Chicago Laboratory schools where BO sends his little punishments.
Your argument that NCLB imposes some sort of crushing load on the school system, is not consistent with my direct experience.
Our local private high schools, consider the school our DD is attending to produce superior students compared to all other regional public middle schools.
It turns out a great school, doesn't need the federal government to mandate minimums for students. Instead a great school aspires to maximize student performance.
Should parents really pity a public school which has trouble getting kids to meet the minimum federal standard?
If the reading programs cited in your post were so great, why did the kids fail? At worst, you are claiming the new programs your state imposed are no better than the old crappy programs which were proved to fail the kids.
What better way would you advocate determining a school's effectiveness other than whether students are learning to a minimal standard?
Your question is based on the assumption that the assessment chosen by the state is the appropriate way to measure the "learning to a minimal standard".
>>> Then why didn't the republican controlled Congress and White House trash it from 2000 to 2006 or attempt to when they controlled Congress during the Clinton years?
Probably because, as a program, it sounds good and they were political cowards.
>>> I meant to ask that of postreply, who has probably, actually researched the issue, but you'll do. Links are always to be "hoped" for to give credence to opinion.
And yet you provide so few links...odd. BTW, my position on NCLB isn't partisan, it's personal. I've seen it's failure.
>>> Standardized testing does not always reflect learning. Educators know this. Taking money away from schools who need help meeting the needs of their students doesn't punish the school, it punished the kids.
In the vast majority of the cases, it does. A test shows retention of knowledge which is, obviously, a measuring stick for the effectiveness of a teacher. And as long as the curriculum is standardized, there's no problem with using standardized tests.
As far as the money is concerned...it screws kids both coming and going. If the school doesn't get the numbers, then they're penalized, which hurts the kids...and to make sure they get the numbers, the school pushes kids who are unprepared through the system, which hurts the kids. The whole system is corrupt.
>>> What's to be done about the assessment? There has to be a better, more accurate way, of assessing a school's effectiveness.
The only way to assess a school's effectiveness is whether or not the vast majority of the children have learned what they were taught. If this is not accomplished then the school has failed.
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