<<On the basis of a "moral foundation"...yes. You might also consider that the purpose of a debate board is to exchange points of view with those who disagree with you...hence the "debate" part of "debate board." If you're going to excuse yourself because someone disagrees with you, then you might find more comfort on an "I agree with everything you say" board.>>
I am certainly not asking you, or anyone else for that matter, to agree with me. I merely decided that I no longer feel comfortable discussing religion with you b/c of the attitude I feel I am receiving in return. It's my belief that religion is an amazing thing and I do not care to discuss it with someone who approaches a conversation with so much scorn. That is my choice, but please don't mistake it for "turning tail" as I am more than willing to stick around and debate other issues. If you would like to continue a debate on religion then you should check out the religion board as someone else suggested.
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Please, please take the time to read my posts properly. You seem to be misreading quite a bit. Perhaps you are in such a hurry to respond that you are not truly "listening" to what I have to say. I never said what religion, if any, I practice. You wrongly assumed that I was an atheist and I told you that I was not but I never said that I was not a Christian. That is an assumption you made on your own. But I must point out that many people are wary of organized religion. Even those that believe in a higher power, as I do.
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If you read my post properly then you would have noticed that I said I no longer wished to participate in a debate about religion and morals. I did not say that I was leaving the board.
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No one is asking for a "big kumbaya moment". Feel free to live in the past if that's what you want but that's no reason to
>>Sorry for the mix-up...but when someone takes the side of atheists over Christians it can lead one to the mistaken impression that you are taking the side of atheists over Christians.<<
Or that that someone things the arguments of a particular athiest make better sense than the arguments of a particular Christian.
Earlier you said that there is a big difference between agnostics and atheists. However, here you said that <>
I beg to differ on that. Atheists have a problem with any concept of a higher power....however it may or may not be organized. Many agnostics on the other hand, are wary of organized religion as this is one of the main reasons for their inability to embrace a particular religion (or sect). On your scale of moral superiority....Where would an agnostic fit?
Also...I THINK it was you who used the word "heathen" in another post and I asked the poster (maybe you) to define what it meant. What I wanted to know was what it meant to them. They kindly suggested I avail myself to a dictionary (I did before asking by the way). At any rate, the standard dictionary definition is:
"1. an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan. 2. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person."
Since we are discussing organized religion in conjunction with moral superiority (in this case, your alleged superiority) does someone who ascribes to "the God of the Bible; a Jew, Christian, or Muslim" morally superior to someone who is "wary" of organized religion, does not belong or identify with a certain church and sect....yet believes in say....Jesus Christ....morally inferior or superior to....Oh let's say (for laughs) a devout practicing Muslim?
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<<On the basis of a "moral foundation"...yes. You might also consider that the purpose of a debate board is to exchange points of view with those who disagree with you...hence the "debate" part of "debate board." If you're going to excuse yourself because someone disagrees with you, then you might find more comfort on an "I agree with everything you say" board.>>
I am certainly not asking you, or anyone else for that matter, to agree with me. I merely decided that I no longer feel comfortable discussing religion with you b/c of the attitude I feel I am receiving in return. It's my belief that religion is an amazing thing and I do not care to discuss it with someone who approaches a conversation with so much scorn. That is my choice, but please don't mistake it for "turning tail" as I am more than willing to stick around and debate other issues. If you would like to continue a debate on religion then you should check out the religion board as someone else suggested.
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Please, please take the time to read my posts properly. You seem to be misreading quite a bit. Perhaps you are in such a hurry to respond that you are not truly "listening" to what I have to say. I never said what religion, if any, I practice. You wrongly assumed that I was an atheist and I told you that I was not but I never said that I was not a Christian. That is an assumption you made on your own. But I must point out that many people are wary of organized religion. Even those that believe in a higher power, as I do.
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If you read my post properly then you would have noticed that I said I no longer wished to participate in a debate about religion and morals. I did not say that I was leaving the board.
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No one is asking for a "big kumbaya moment". Feel free to live in the past if that's what you want but that's no reason to
Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07
Well,
Do you mean an inhalator?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=inhalator&db=*
or an inhalater?
http://www.inhalater.com/
>>Sorry for the mix-up...but when someone takes the side of atheists over Christians it can lead one to the mistaken impression that you are taking the side of atheists over Christians.<<
Or that that someone things the arguments of a particular athiest make better sense than the arguments of a particular Christian.
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That doesn't surprise me given the cynicism I've observed here.
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There was no taking of "sides".
Chrissy
mom to Aidan 8/21/03
Grayson Blaine 12/30/07
But WHOSE?
Um...proving what?>>>>
That even religious people happily lie to God.
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Earlier you said that there is a big difference between agnostics and atheists. However, here you said that <>
I beg to differ on that. Atheists have a problem with any concept of a higher power....however it may or may not be organized. Many agnostics on the other hand, are wary of organized religion as this is one of the main reasons for their inability to embrace a particular religion (or sect). On your scale of moral superiority....Where would an agnostic fit?
Also...I THINK it was you who used the word "heathen" in another post and I asked the poster (maybe you) to define what it meant. What I wanted to know was what it meant to them. They kindly suggested I avail myself to a dictionary (I did before asking by the way). At any rate, the standard dictionary definition is:
"1. an unconverted individual of a people that do not acknowledge the God of the Bible; a person who is neither a Jew, Christian, nor Muslim; pagan.
2. an irreligious, uncultured, or uncivilized person."
Since we are discussing organized religion in conjunction with moral superiority (in this case, your alleged superiority) does someone who ascribes to "the God of the Bible; a Jew, Christian, or Muslim" morally superior to someone who is "wary" of organized religion, does not belong or identify with a certain church and sect....yet believes in say....Jesus Christ....morally inferior or superior to....Oh let's say (for laughs) a devout practicing Muslim?
Edited 1/9/2009 10:18 am ET by suemox
I admire your patience and am remembering many such discussions I've had like this on the board in the past.
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I certainly believe that you are. We'll just have to see what happens.
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