I am so upset about Gaza
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I am so upset about Gaza
| Sun, 01-11-2009 - 10:14pm |
I can't quite express how much this has upset me.
| Sun, 01-11-2009 - 10:14pm |
I can't quite express how much this has upset me.
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No...the inspectors were told to leave as Bush was going to start the invasion.
Like I said, we're clearly going to disagree on this.
So you are 100% certain that if Israel just stopped today, the Israelis and their own also-much-beloved children would not be killed by rockets from Hamas?
>>> I don't know why they are doing it -- well, except the keep the Red Cross and UN from effectively doing their jobs.
The Red Cross and UN aren't combat organizations. Their presence is a hindrance to Israel's military operation, and it's only through the humanity of the Israelis that they're permitted into the "zone" to render limited aid.
>>> But this is not something jkenny made up. According to the UN, and according to the lcoal Red Cross, they are providing their coordinates to the IDF, for clearance and permission to conduct humanitarian aid. And almost as soon as they are cleared to follow the route provided, the IDF begans shotting them. Sveral UN and Red Cross aid workers have been shot and attacked by the IDF, after getting IDF clearance to travel safely int he area.
It's a war zone. I don't know if what you say is true or just more propaganda, but I don't believe that Israel would knowingly target aid services.
>>> Additionally, the IDF has been bombing UN schools and UN shelters. You are free to draw your own conslusions as to why the IDF is targetting both civillians and those aiding the civillians.
Because Hamas has not morals and uses innocent people as shields, forcing Israel to fire on them.
<<< Who do you think is accepting the responsiblity of those who'd surrender
<< I imagine that the Israeli army has a process for taking prisoners and refugees.
>>> No. There is no process by which the Israeli army is taking in civillians. The won't allow them to flee. That is a big bulk of the protest against Israel's actions.
Links?
<<< (and from what, this nurse and her family weren't firing rockets into Israel, they didn't do anything wrong except try to live their lives and, in the case of the nurse, to heal others.)
<< Possibly...but then, how "innocent" were the German people in 1937? I guess we were evil to have bombed those poor folks, weren't we?
>>> Well, since the Palestinians have not put Jews into camps, killing them, your analogy simply doesn't work.
They are killing the Jews...and using terror tactics against them. The analogy fits.
<<< They are finally protecting themselves.<<
<<< 13 dead israelis of a population of 7 million. 1,000 dead Gazans of a population of 400,000. The Israelis are "protecting" themselves at a rate of 1346 to one. That isn't self-defense, its genocide. To give you a sense? If we decided to "protect ourselves" in a similar fashion, we'd have needed to kill over 4 million people in response to the attacks on the twin towers on 9/11.
>>> What disturbs me, and apparently people like Jenny, is that while the IDF may say this is about self defense, their actions do not mesh with their words.
And yet, it was the IDF that responded defensively to aggression by the Palestinians.
>>> Additionally, the IDF has been bombing UN schools and UN shelters. You are free to draw your own conslusions as to why the IDF is targetting both civillians and those aiding the civillians.
Because Hamas has not morals and uses innocent people as shields, forcing Israel to fire on them.
Are you claiming that the UN is housing Hamas in its shelters and schools?I thought that both you and neredowell would find this interesting.
Israeli forces shell UN headquarters in Gaza
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You want links about people who can't leave Gaza, who have nowhere to flee, who go where the IDF tells them to go and still get killed?
refugees were not allowed out once hamas took over, despite trying:
And in case it still isn't clear, the borders of Gaza remain closed, and neither Israel nor Egypt is allowing Palestinian refugees to flee:
http://news.morningstar.com/newsnet/ViewNews.aspx?article=/DJ/200901051223DOWJONESDJONLINE000324_univ.xml
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