Pelosi gets spanked by the Pope

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Pelosi gets spanked by the Pope
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Wed, 02-18-2009 - 6:45pm

Pelosi, Pope Have No Meeting of the Minds
It would appear from the two statements issued by the Vatican and the speaker's office that Nancy Pelosi and Pope Benedict did not share the same views during her audience with the pontiff.

.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican Wednesday morning, but may not have had a meeting of the minds if the two statements from their offices are any indication.

No journalists were at the 15-minute encounter and the Vatican and the speaker's offices have not released any photos. However, according to their statements it appears the pope and the politician attended two different get-togethers.

"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development," the Vatican wrote, having released the statement moments before the two met.

Several hours later, Pelosi's office gave her take on the tete-a-tete.

"It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with his Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI today," Pelosi said in a statement released hours after the meeting. "In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church's leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father's dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel. I was proud to show his Holiness a photograph of my family's papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren."

The pontiff has a long history of urging Catholic politicians to toe the line on abortion, and has said that those who don't shouldn't take communion. Pelosi supports abortion rights and says she's never been denied communion at her church in San Francisco.

In 2002, the Vatican issued a doctrinal note on "The Participation of Catholics in Political Life," which states rather succinctly that politicians who profess to be Catholic have a "grave and clear obligation" to oppose any law that attacks human life.

That note was approved by John Paul II but signed by none other than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He's now the pope.

The speaker does not share that belief, and even got into a verbal slugfest with American bishops last August after her statements on a news program about the Church's view of when life begins.

"I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months, we don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose," she said at the time on NBC's "Meet the Press."

She then added that the Church has only held the view for 50 years or so that life begins at conception. The remarks earned her widespread corrections by Catholic clerics.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/

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Registered: 08-25-2008
Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:29pm

A fair number of US Catholics should leave - although you should also note than most global catholics aren't as 'cafeteria' as the US ones.


The Pope, prior to his elevation had noted on several occasions that the Church would be better off with fewer, more committed Catholics than those who pick and choose what they want.

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Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:40pm

AHAHHAHA - sorry Mum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Registered: 08-31-2008
Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:45pm

Only if they follow the prescribed method 100% of the times they have sex, which for me was less than 2 weeks in a given month. Good luck with that. IME, my sex life was a little more fluid than nfp, horny partner, horny self, healthy sexual relationship. I did nfp as prescribed, if not for multiple miscarriages, I'd be able to field a baseball team.

Now, I have no uterus and I'm lucky to get lucky a couple of times a month. Life's ironies.




Edited 2/22/2009 8:50 pm ET by slowroadrunner
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Registered: 02-19-2009
Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:46pm

Which means 5 women out of every hundred who use it perfectly will still get pregnant in the first year of use.


Sorry, I'll stick with

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Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:52pm

>Yet what you have posted only backs up my claim... perfect use has only a 3-5% failure rate.... that means it is 95% - 97% effective when properly used.

Sandy
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Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:54pm

>The Pope, prior to his elevation had noted on several occasions that the Church would be better off with fewer, more committed Catholics than those who pick and choose what they want.<


And I'm thinking the Pope is forgetting how much money in the Catholic coffers comes from churches in the U.S.

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Sandy
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Sun, 02-22-2009 - 8:55pm

Sandy you are wrong about the NFP and irregular cycles.

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Registered: 07-25-2008
Sun, 02-22-2009 - 9:00pm

Being "taught" it in a childbirth class (guessing you were pregnant when you took the class) is stupid.

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Registered: 11-10-2006
Sun, 02-22-2009 - 9:09pm

I should hope that true Catholics aspiring to live a truly Catholic life will be able

 


 


 


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Registered: 07-25-2008
Sun, 02-22-2009 - 9:12pm

You are free to vote for whom you want and why you want and so am I.


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