The right's dangerous legal argument
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The right's dangerous legal argument
| Thu, 03-05-2009 - 9:46pm |
Appearing for the supporters of Prop 8, Kenneth Starr, the former Whitewater prosecutor, said the people hold the right to modify the state constitution by adding or subtracting protections for civil rights.
Court appears ready to uphold Prop. 8
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Getting to be a trend.
IF gays accepted civil unions there would be no need for states to overturn the bans the protect marriage.
Sort of like had black folk accepted those separate bathrooms,
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"You have no power over my body..." ~ Anne Hutchinson
When asked why we wanted to be married in a church my future wife simply answered that was what she always wanted to do was get married in a church.
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~Makes you appreciate your spouse, doesn't it?~
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>>> There is no need for gays to "accept" less than equal.
That's why we'll make civil unions "legally" equal to marriage.
>>> Marriage is the term used in this country. Soon, USSC will put an end to this bigoted nonsense.
Sorry, but gays don't conform to the traditional definition of marriage...they'll have to try something "new."
>>> The courts don't uphold the right to amend constitutions to take rights away.
But apparently they do uphold the right to amend the constitution to clarify the definition of an existing "civil right."
>>> That's why the path is clear.
Except that, from all indications, the CASC is leaning towards supporting prop 8.
>>> One by one, states will grat full equality to gay citizens.
They already have full equality...they're looking for special rights to corrupt the institution of marriage.
>>> Then full faith and credit will see to the rest.
DOMA.
>>> I understand it's hard to accept, when the goal is to keep others in a second class status, but the writing is on the wall.
And the letters are D-O-M-A
>>> And it looks mighty fine from here.
I'm sure many in California felt that way last May.
>>> Sort of like had black folk accepted those separate bathrooms, water fountains, back of bus rides, there would have been no need for civil rights laws.
"Bus" didn't have to be redefined to accommodate black people.
"Bus" didn't have to be redefined to accommodate black people.
Neither does marriage.
Only the law need change - with both.
Full length fiction: worlds undone
"You have no power over my body..." ~ Anne Hutchinson
"You think you know, sir!" ~ Cornflake Girl ~ Tori Amos.
Full length fiction: worlds undone
"You have no power over my body..." ~ Anne Hutchinson
>>> Care to show me what law guarantees anyone the right to "tradition?"
Sure...when the FEDERAL government made Christmas a FEDERAL holiday.
>>> And if tradiion is a right, why don't we still have bans on interracial marriage?
Because the courts discovered the obvious...that interracial couples actually met the criteria for marriage.
>>> Why was slavery abolished?
Because we won the war?
>>> Why was segregation eliminated?
Is it? Maybe we should go tell that to the folks in Harlem...or South Central LA...or Chinatown...or...
>>> How is it that I have the right to vote?
Women's sufferage movements gained the support of the people and legislators who amended the Constitution.
>>> Nope, no right to tradition.
Sure there is.
>>> That doesn't stop bigots and racists from screaming "tradition!!!!" when they're trying to keep others down, but the courts just don't back them,
We'll see in June, won't we?
>>> If corruption of marriage is the concern...fight adultery/DV/Multiple divorce.
We do.
>>> But fighting MARRIAGE so marriage won't be corrupted...is not logical.
Who's fighting marriage so marriage won't be corrupted? We're preserving marriage so marriage won't be corrupted.
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