The right's dangerous legal argument

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The right's dangerous legal argument
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Thu, 03-05-2009 - 9:46pm

Appearing for the supporters of Prop 8, Kenneth Starr, the former Whitewater prosecutor, said the people hold the right to modify the state constitution by adding or subtracting protections for civil rights.


Court appears ready to uphold Prop. 8



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Registered: 05-17-2004
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 7:37pm

feel the ugly truth is that many people in this country are blinded to upholding decency & morals all in their

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Registered: 01-22-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:30pm

>>> Sin has no connection to LEGAL marriage, and one's personal definition of sin has no place in the rights of others in this secular nation.

Sin is intertwined with the religious aspects of marriage which are intertwined with the legal aspects of marriage. Sin also played a large part in the opposition of gay marriage and the success of Prop 8, so it would be foolish to dismiss it's importance to the issue.

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Registered: 01-22-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:38pm
Of course there's proof. Marriage is the union of a man and a woman...if gay marriage is legalized, then marriage will no longer be the union of a man and a woman...and the door will have been opened to other groups looking for social sanction of their particular sexual peccadilloes.
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Registered: 01-22-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:47pm
Sorry, but, by definition, gay unions aren't "marriages"...and it's the unwillingness of the left to compromise that led to the success of Prop 8.


Edited 3/31/2009 8:48 pm ET by neredowellv
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Registered: 07-04-2005
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:50pm

Legal marriage is not about any one persons chosen religion.


No matter how many times people try to force thier chosen religious beliefs into the arena, legal marriage

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Registered: 07-04-2005
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:52pm

Wow, a very circular way of saying there is no proof.


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Registered: 01-22-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:58pm

>>> Legal marriage is not about any one persons chosen religion. No matter how many times people try to force thier chosen religious beliefs into the arena, legal marriage has no religious requirement. None. Nada.

Sorry, but it's a faux argument anyway...gay couples don't conform to the definition of marriage and so can't, by definition, be "married."

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Registered: 07-04-2005
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 8:58pm

Interesting position.


"Gay marriage isn't marriage because I don't want it to be marriage."


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Registered: 07-04-2005
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:01pm

Fortunately, no one has named a poster on a message board as the definer of marriage for all people.


Thanks for offering your opinion about the definition of marriage.

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Registered: 01-22-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:05pm

<< Odd...when Barry was elected, the opinion of "most people" seemed to have more validity for you.

>>> Under our system, those with the most electoral votes win, and most often the popular vote is in line, though we know there are exceptions. It does not mean the most qualified won, it means the one most popular amongst those voting prevailed.

I think Obama is proving that point every day.

>>> We aren't talking on elections, we are talking about an issue, and history shows us popular opinion can be on the wrong side of an issue.

Popular opinion can also be on the right side of an issue...as it is with the issue of gay marriage.

<< The state only recognized the legality of marriage, but it also finds the religious bonds and vows to be legally binding.

>>> And this is discrimination, because churches that wish their marriage of same sex couples to be legally binding are summarily ignored and shouted down by those who wish to perpetuate discrimination.

As are churches who wish to perform polygamous marriages. But it isn't discrimination to preserve the meaning and intent of a social institution that is already available to all the people equally.

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