The right's dangerous legal argument

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The right's dangerous legal argument
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Thu, 03-05-2009 - 9:46pm

Appearing for the supporters of Prop 8, Kenneth Starr, the former Whitewater prosecutor, said the people hold the right to modify the state constitution by adding or subtracting protections for civil rights.


Court appears ready to uphold Prop. 8



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Registered: 02-19-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:12pm

>>Most people view marriage as a single institution who's legality is not distinctly different from it's sanctity.<<


As folks

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Registered: 03-29-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:17pm

"Right now churches do not have the right to decide for themselves, that right is precluded by conservative churches disliking the right of other churches who view things differently to exercise that right."


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Registered: 07-04-2005
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:20pm

History repeats and repeats.


The rhetoric to keep inter racial couples from marrying ALSO claimed that the "traditional institution" of marriage was open to all people equally.


Then, the Supreme court stepped in.

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Registered: 07-04-2005
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:22pm

psssttt....


kleenex ready...


would still love an update if you have time.


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Registered: 08-13-2008
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:34pm

Sin is intertwined with the religious aspects of marriage which are intertwined with the legal aspects of marriage. Sin also played a large part in the opposition of gay marriage and the success of Prop 8, so it would be foolish to dismiss it's importance to the issue.


You are mixing two very different elements.


The members of the voting public each have their individual motivations, and this very heavily funded oppositional campaign played to unfounded fear. Only each member of the voting public decides for themselves how they cast their vote.


That contrasts with the legal aspect, which cannot be intertwined with voter motivation after the voting is done, only with law itself.


And in this country, religion is out of that second mix. Period.



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Registered: 03-29-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:34pm

"Actually, the bullying comes from the other side."


Like calling the LDS church using its right to free speech equal to the gay movement intimidating and directed vadalism? That doesn't seem too equal or balanced to me.


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Registered: 02-19-2009
Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:42pm

>>Then why demand to use church property and sue the church if the church refuses?<<


If you don't rent out your property to the public you aren't subject to anti-discrimination laws.

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Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:45pm
Of course there's proof. Marriage is the union of a man and a woman...if gay marriage is legalized, then marriage will no longer be the union of a man and a woman...and the door will have been opened to other groups looking for social sanction of their particular sexual peccadilloes.




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Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:47pm
Would you accept a vote that banned heterosexual marriage?


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Tue, 03-31-2009 - 9:49pm

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