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Mon, 03-09-2009 - 6:05pm

London aghast at President Obama over gifts given to Prime Minister Brown

BY David Saltonstall
Daily News Senior Correspondent

Updated Saturday, March 7th 2009, 2:03 AM

You'd think President Obama had booted the Brits out of America — again!

London newspapers are howling over a string of alleged snubs by Obama to British Prime Minister Gordon Brown during his visit to Washington last week — including a squabble over presidential gift-giving.

"President Obama has been rudeness personified towards Britain," sniffed The Daily Telegraph Friday. "His handling of the visit of the Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, to Washington was appalling."

The list of complaints is longer than the Magna Carta: Obama canceled a planned, podium-to-podium news conference with Brown (actually, none was ever scheduled); he recently removed a bust of former Prime Minister Winston Churchill from the Oval Office; and he gave gifts to the Brown family that were "about as exciting as a pair of socks," one Fleet Street wag whined.

That last bit might be true. After Brown presented Obama with a pen holder crafted from the timbers of the 19th century British warship HMS President (whose sister ship, HMS Resolute, provided the wood for the Oval Office's desk), Obama offered up ... 25 DVDs of American movie classics.

"Oh, give me strength," wrote one appalled Daily Telegraph staffer. "We do have television and DVD stores on this side of the Atlantic."

Never mind that Brown is blind in one eye and may have a hard time seeing the stars in "2001: A Space Odyssey," or that American DVDs are usually incompatible with British players.

Equally insulting, decided the Times of London, was Michelle Obama's "solipsistic" and "inherently dismissive" gifts to the Browns' two little boys, Fraser and John.

The offending souvenirs? Toy models of Marine One, the President's helicopter — gifts no doubt plucked from the White House gift shop at the last minute, The Times decided.

Brown's wife, Sarah, by contrast arrived with dresses for Sasha and Malia from the UK's trendy Top Shop (with matching necklaces) and a selection of books by British authors.

"A bit of thought had clearly gone into choosing them," crowed The Daily Mail. "Lovely."

The Brits have blown up the alleged snubs into new evidence that the "special relationship" between the two nations is no longer quite so special.

The hand-wringing began last month when Obama removed a bust of Churchill from the Oval Office and replaced it with his hero, Abraham Lincoln.

The Times of London immediately traced Obama's "disdain" for Churchill to Kenya, where Obama's grandfather was caught up in the Churchill-led suppression of the 1950s Mau Mau Rebellion that left thousands of Kenyans dead.

"It's not surprising that Mr. Obama didn't want Churchill looking over his shoulder," explained one correspondent.

At this point, the two sides seem to be in full repair mode. The White House let it be known that Obama and Brown shared a chummy phone call as the prime minister was headed home.

And Friday, it was revealed that Obama would be granted a private audience with Queen Elizabeth when he is in London next month.

Quipped one reader of The Sun, "I hope Her Majesty likes DVDs."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/03/06/2009-03-06_london_aghast_at_president_obama_over_gi.html

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 2:05am
>>>>> I did look and couldn't find anything.

>>>>> I would like to be educated.

So I provided links.

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 2:22am

No, I haven't forgotten, however...We were discussing Iraq here.


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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 3:13am

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>>> I didn't blame the writing of the law on Chalabi who is not at all obscure btw.

Really? You weren't the one who said..."The truth is much of the Iraq Liberation Act was...lobbied and drafted by Chalabi"? But you are right, he certainly wasn't obscure...and not really a lobbyist.

>>> He is the one who influenced the writing of this piece of legislation. I have stated it was a bi-partisan bill. I even stated in one of my first post on this thread that bi-partisan doesn't always pay. I also stated that the bill was heavily pushed by the GOP which you ignore.

Actually, I don't ignore...I know that conservatives considered Hussein to be a threat, and let that be known, but the Democrats did as well, and were not subtle about pushing their agenda, which was instigated by a Democrat President and carried through by a Republican one. Chalabi may have been a significant source of information for both Democrat and Republican administrations, but Clinton neither Clinton nor Bush attacked Iraq on Chalabi's say so.

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>>> Now I know you are pulling my leg. Very funny to give me links (2) to the Weekly Standard http://www.newamericancentury.org/williamkristolbio.htm and one from NRO written by Stephen F. Hayes, a staff writer for The Weekly Standard and his book. Are you trying to prove my point about the influence of these people with their skewed information because you sure did a nice job or just trying to get a laugh.

Dispute the facts...if you can.

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>>> While misleading the people into thinking Iraq had ties to the World Trade center bombings.

Links? And nothing from left-wing web sites...unless you're just trying to get a laugh. ; )

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>>> LOL, all that bogus information you are linking me up to from the Weekly Standard. You might want to check out the government archives instead. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB129/index.htm

Sorry...you were trying to prove what? I didn't see anything that even implied that information was skewed or misrepresented. Would you mind sharing the passages that say this?

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>>> It was not propaganda. Bush looked very hard for a link.

But your article says..."The administration maintains that it cannot find any evidence that the conversation about an Iraq-9/11 tie-in ever took place."

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>>> Who influenced these beliefs? I've already posted who they were and you backed up those post with your Weekly Standard articles.

Trying to make Chalabi into some Machiavellian mastermind twisting the minds of our government to his will is ridiculous. Who they were was Hussein himself following the Gulf War...hence the sanctions, UN resolutions and the repeated attempts at inspections. And I posted the Weekly Standard articles as evidence of Iraq-Al Qaeda connections.

>>> These are the people behind the influence of WMD. You may assert our members of Congress and the American people were gullible but you cannot say they were behind the deceit.

Boy, you sure give Chalabi a LOT of power and a LOT of influence over our government, our CIA and the intelligence agencies and governments of a LOT of other nations. We're going to need James Bond to deal with this super-villain.

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>>> Bush was misleading the public and Congress that Saddam posed a great threat and war was needed and the terrorist were connected to Iraq. All a bunch of bull.

Oh...ok...Iraq sure needed to be bombed in 1998 to get those mean ol' WMDs and nuclear weapons, but heavens, don't actually send in the troops in 2003 to make sure they don't fall into the hands of terrorists. LOL!

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You never asked me that but I will surely repost this link: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB129/index.htm

No, no...I'm sorry, I asked for the evidence that Bush had PRIOR to the war that proved Hussein DIDN'T have WMDs.

>>> To white out important information on intelligence information is cherry picking.

Actually, it's called "redaction," and it's done with all publicly disseminated information containing private, or sensitive information.

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>>> HA, you calling something propaganda and then producing propaganda from the Weekly Standard. Priceless!

Disprove the Weekly Standard, then we'll talk. LOL!

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 3:17am
What was that Abraham Lincoln said? LOL! I guess there isn't as much love for moonbats as we thought. ; )
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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 6:12am

>>>>> I asked for the evidence that Bush had PRIOR to the war that proved Hussein DIDN'T have WMDs.


We've been asking, and waiting, and asking again, and waiting...


Excellent posts BTW and (minus the ridiculing... you don't really need that huh...) ITA;

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 7:48am

The links you provided about SH

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 7:57am

You: >>>>> there are plenty of good people out here but plenty of "snipers" also - willing to

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 9:47am

Yeah - I have seen and experienced the snipers - LOL.

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 10:46am

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Mon, 03-16-2009 - 11:07am

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A lobbyist or sponsor of a bill can most certainly draft a bill.

 

 

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