"Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society."
Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes
"Just saw on T.V. Stupak and his group of congress people say they are going to vote yes on the bill."
Some may not like it, but it changes absolutely nothing in terms of policy. It is an affirmation of the Hyde amendment. HCR wasn't about giving women insurance to cover the cost of elective abortion anyway. Still, the affirmation of existing law might be like "rubbing salt in the wound" for some pro-choicers.
IMO the moderate and conservative ones will not make much noise thinking they are covered.
The Executive Order allowed Stupak and his friends who we elected who were too chicken to reveal their identities to save a little face.
I am listening to the live coverage of the House on MSNBC. Listening to the Republicans howl is pretty annoying. They still don't seem to realize that elections have consequences.
Health care is such a huge problem and yet the Republicans have done nothing about for so long. In fact, they have done worse than nothing. From the early nineties through the steady decline of the situation until now they have spread fear and lies to block reform. In the meantime, the health care monster has eaten up all of ordinary Americans' wage gains over the past decade.
And now these wastrels are complaining about the effect of healthcare reform on America's finances. As I believe you may agree, this is so ridiculous on so many levels.
1. Republicans ignore that Americans cannot afford and should not be required to pay 39% a year increases. It is not fair. Millions of Americans are tapped out. Unless our government steps into the crisis, ever skyrocketing healthcare costs will drive these American families into the ground.
2. The non-partisan Congressional Budget Office says the legislation will reduce the debt by over 100 billion in the next 10 years and over one trillion dollars over the next twenty. Why in the world should we trust partisan Republicans on anything fiscal? Republicans spent like drunken sailors with a fresh credit card every time they took the Executive since the Republican Nixon/Ford disaster. And our last Republican President was as bad as the worst of them. How in the world can Republicans expect Americans to trust their partisan point of view versus a non-partisan point of view? Do the Republicans have no shame? Do they not see that they spend like drunken sailors on our collective credit and try to tear down government every time we give them control? And what about Democrats during this timeframe. You have said it more than I - the debt to GDP ratio went down under them each time the Democrats ran America since Nixon/Ford.
Republicans are so full of it that it makes me sick. "Country first" is just another marketing ploy to them. The only consolation is that their own stupidity is relegating them to the dustbin of history very quickly as they isolate themselves from minorities and women and young people and gay people and so many others. If it weren't for Rupert Murdoch plugging the dykes, Republicans would have been marginalized 6 years ago after they launched us into that dumb war in Iraq.
It sure us dandy this HC bill is going to cut the deficit because this country can't take
"And now these wastrels are complaining about the effect of healthcare reform on America's finances. As I believe you may agree, this is so ridiculous on so many levels."
The money to pay those premiums is going to come from somewhere. Right now it looks like it's going to come out of people's disposable income. That means a slower economy to the tune of about $1 Bill in lost sales tax/yr.
Maybe some of that thar' deficit came from cutting taxes while starting one war that didn't need to be....