Do felons have a right to healthcare?

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Registered: 09-07-2009
Do felons have a right to healthcare?
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Tue, 03-23-2010 - 9:51pm
Just a thought I had, I am having many of them lately of things that weren't discussed by lawmakers and not in the bill.

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Registered: 03-10-2010
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 5:27pm
They are citizens and will be mandated to have coverage, so I think that if they need subsidies, then they will receive those subsidies.

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Registered: 09-07-2009
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 10:12pm
Thanks for your polite reply, the other was not so much.
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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 10:45pm

Unfortunately, regardless of what we do the victims' tax dollars will pay for those felons, one way or another. They've already paid taxes for the time these individuals were in prison (including any and all health care they needed).

We all pay taxes for things we'd rather not be paying for. It's the nature of government.

And I doubt you'd want Ollie North to go without health care coverage. (Yes, I'm aware his convictions were vacated on a technicality.)

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Sandy
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Registered: 09-07-2009
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 10:58pm

it could be placed as trauma to the victim, not a good thing


You are comparing North to a pedophile?

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Registered: 09-07-2009
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 11:01pm
and for viagra as it seems, not good for dems
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Wed, 03-24-2010 - 11:20pm

Nearly all citizens will be mandated to obtain insurance. The exceptions to that mandate are native Americans and those whose religion doesn't permit health care. If it happens that ex-cons or felons can't afford insurance, they're just as eligible for subsidies as anybody else in their financial situation. As for those who are sex offenders, when you think of it, there are probably plenty of pervs who haven't been caught. They'd be eligible for subsidies also if their income fell in the appropriate range. Being caught doesn't make a bad person any more bad than those who aren't caught. Victims of pervs would also be eligible for subsidies based upon their incomes. I am unhappy about where some of my tax money goes. I have no choice about it and have to "suck it up." Sadly, victims of crime will have to do the same.

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Registered: 09-07-2009
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 11:22pm

thank you for your post

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Registered: 03-26-2003
Wed, 03-24-2010 - 11:44pm

>You are comparing North to a pedophile? really?<

Convicted felons come in many forms. Some are murderers and rapists and pedophiles, individuals none of us want in our neighborhoods. And some are folks like Bernie Madoff and Ollie North, guys who break the law and hurt society in more subtle ways. Those who lost their retirements and those charities that lost their endowments in Madoff's Ponzi scheme might feel that their tax dollars could be better spent than by housing and feeding Madoff.

I am sorry for the pain that was caused by the horrible person who harmed you. But you said "convicted felon" in your original question, and that was what I was addressing.

And while I've not been the victim of a violent crime, a friend's sister was murdered by one of her high school teachers, so I'm aware of the anger and pain one feels at the continued survival and/or success of the one who has committed this heinous act.

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Sandy
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Registered: 10-10-2008
Thu, 03-25-2010 - 12:26am
First do you know what some of these laws read? We used to have "high misdemeanor" as the step between Felon and misdemeanor. Now in the "get tough" we allowed every thing to be a felony. Some people are sick but we are not doing the research to understand why and if there is a hormone or brain chem problem.
What we have created is classes of people that are going to be on welfare as they cannot get jobs and many times can't get housing.(sex offenders) And most of the "sex offenses" are kissing(that's right there are cases of 15 year old kissed a 13 year old and was convicted of a "sex crime")sending a sex text to BF/GF,and on and on. Our elected representatives are such cowards that they can't wait to mess up hoping that the courts will throw out the law. An they don't have to take any heat.
All citizens deserve to be treated equally. What would you say if it is discovered that a drug would "cure" a pedophile and it would be paid thru HC?
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Registered: 10-25-2006
Thu, 03-25-2010 - 8:49am

Yes, but I would like to see costly cases within the prison system approved by some sort of review board. If a guy has 20 years left to serve and the treatment will extend his life only 5-10, I'd say skip it.

I'm still bothered a bit, though, by the fact that DNA testing has exonerated wrongly-labeled felons, after they had served 20 yrs. I'd feel bad about denying someone like that health care, no matter how costly it is.

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