FAT CAT BUREAUCRATS

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Thu, 08-12-2010 - 3:14pm
By Dennis Cauchon, USA TODAY

At a time when workers' pay and benefits have stagnated, federal employees' average compensation has grown to more than double what private sector workers earn, a USA TODAY analysis finds.

Federal workers have been awarded bigger average pay and benefit increases than private employees for nine years in a row. The compensation gap between federal and private workers has doubled in the past decade.


Federal civil servants earned average pay and benefits of $123,049 in 2009 while private workers made $61,051 in total compensation, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. The data are the latest available.


The federal compensation advantage has grown from $30,415 in 2000 to $61,998 last year.


Public employee unions say the compensation gap reflects the increasingly high level of skill and education required for most federal jobs and the government contracting out lower-paid jobs to the private sector in recent years.



"The data are not useful for a direct public-private pay comparison," says Colleen Kelley, president of the National Treasury Employees Union.


Chris Edwards, a budget analyst at the libertarian Cato Institute, thinks otherwise. "Can't we now all agree that federal workers are overpaid and do something about it?" he asks.


Last week, President Obama ordered a freeze on bonuses for 2,900 political appointees. For the rest of the 2-million-person federal workforce, Obama asked for a 1.4% across-the-board pay hike in 2011, the smallest in more than a decade. Federal workers also would qualify for seniority pay hikes.


Congressional Republicans want to cancel the across-the-board increase in 2011, which would save $2.2 billion.


"Americans are fed up with public employee pay scales far exceeding that in the private sector," says Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., the second-ranking Republican in the House.


Sen. Ted Kaufman, D-Del., says a pay freeze would unfairly scapegoat federal workers without addressing real budget problems.


What the data show:


•Benefits. Federal workers received average benefits worth $41,791 in 2009. Most of this was the government's contribution to pensions. Employees contributed an additional $10,569.


•Pay. The average federal salary has grown 33% faster than inflation since 2000. USA TODAY reported in March that the federal government pays an average of 20% more than private firms for comparable occupations. The analysis did not consider differences in experience and education.


•Total compensation. Federal compensation has grown 36.9% since 2000 after adjusting for inflation, compared with 8.8% for private workers.

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Registered: 04-04-2001
Fri, 08-13-2010 - 10:20am

I agree.

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 7:56pm
Is that why congress won't give the American people the same health insurance that they receive?

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 7:50pm

I think another post showed why those figures are inaccurate. Because the lower status (and income workers) are no longer employed.
The amt of the remaining workers increases.
http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/pi/pinewsrelease.htm
Cost of living over views(may not be accurate for where you live)

http://www.bls.gov/opub/focus/volume1_number6/cpi_1_6.pdf

http://www.alternet.org/economy/147560/america%2C_there_is_a_better_way%3A_it%E2%80%99s_called_germany

http://money.cnn.com/news/storysupplement/economy/cost_of_living/

The idea that one can get something with out paying>>>When taxpayers are made to pay the over inflated wages of government employees, it takes more money out of their pockets and they have less to spend in the private sector.<<<<<
Ask you physician if they are willing to work for $12.00 an hour.
The investor can mean different things. A person with a million shares is also an investor.
Rich is 100 million. truly rich have it in hard currency(gold,jewelry,not paper.).

In reality no one likes taxes but we have had taxes almost as long as we have had death.Neither is likely to go away soon.

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Registered: 07-19-2010
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 6:50pm

(Somehow it is ok not to have a living wage? )

When did I say it wasn't. However, the salary should be based on the market. Clearly the government salaries are over inflated compared to the private sector. This is not good. When taxpayers are made to pay the over inflated wages of government employees, it takes more money out of their pockets and they have less to spend in the private sector.

(The cost of living has gone up.)

No, it hasn't. In 2009, the cost of gasoline was down as well as the price of food and housing.

(The lowered dollar has hurt the consumer.)

No, it has hurt the investor.

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Registered: 10-14-2001
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 6:28pm

To make matters worse...the recent 25 billion dollar aid bill...goes to, guess who?, UNION WORKERS!


Meanwhile, they CUT 12 B from food stamp program.


It makes me sick, because union people have so much power, they get many more goodies than the rest of us, are never satisfied and now, because of their greed, people who REALLY need it, are going to do with less food.


I honestly hope that being a public employee will be viewed with some scorn because they have truly abused their power.


Stop voting for all politicians that cow tow to them and give them raises and benefits in exchange for endorsements and $$$.

Soliel
Soliel
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Registered: 12-07-2006
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 6:03pm

>>Public employee unions say the compensation gap reflects the increasingly high level of skill and education required for most federal jobs and the government contracting out lower-paid jobs to the private sector in recent years.


Of course the unions would say this but I would need to ask them.... If the government employs these top notch highly skilled individuals, why then is their performance lower in comparison?

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Registered: 01-25-2010
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 4:15pm
Not so fast. Somehow it is ok not to have a living wage?
The Gop has skeletons in it's closet. The cost of living has gone up.
The lowered dollar has hurt the consumer. The infantile wrangling has crippled congress. Saving? In real terms not!
I blame both parties and the others for not having the courage to say the system is broken. WE are moving toward a nation of shareholders with paper wealth and wage earners with no wealth.
Those Gov't workers can spend. But that is because we are still in a consumer economy. So the powers that be want the wage earner to spend. Never mind that it costs 2 mil to have a comfortable retirement and much more to prepare for the possibility of an accident or illness and have 1st class care.
What is wrong with that picture?

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Registered: 01-12-2004
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 3:52pm

A few points to make, for context...


During the first 8 of the last 10 years, the time frame addressed in this article, Congress insisted on a concept known as pay parity. Basically, the percentage pay raise for civilian federal employees was equal to the percentage pay raise for the military. In other words, if the military was getting a 3% raise, civilian feds got a 3% raise as well. Since we have been at war for most of the past 10 years, and we have an all-voluteer military, and for

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Registered: 07-19-2010
Thu, 08-12-2010 - 3:26pm

(Obama asked for a 1.4% across-the-board pay hike in 2011, the smallest in more than a decade. Federal workers also would qualify for seniority pay hikes.
Congressional Republicans want to cancel the across-the-board increase in 2011, which would save $2.2 billion.)

Boy, those sentences say it all, Democrats want to keep spending and giving raises...when workers in the private sector are just luck to have a job.

Republicans want to halt raises this year saving 2.2 Billion dollars of tax payer money.

Hmmmm......