the right to health

iVillage Member
Registered: 05-14-2010
the right to health
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Thu, 08-19-2010 - 12:36pm
Question. Why do you think health care is a right? If you do, then doesn't that right extend to people in utero and to the 85 year olds? Or just to those who contribute to society?

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iVillage Member
Registered: 12-07-2006
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 8:43am

>>In fact, they are not people/human beings until birth.


Haven't heard such an extreme position before.

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-07-2006
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 9:00am

>>Since health care is necessary to what we all hold to be a normal length of life, I'd say that it falls under that first right.


The "right to life" means that

Community Leader
Registered: 09-14-1997
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 9:11am

"Health care is not a "right". If it were, we wouldn't have to pay for it. It would be something that involves only ourselves, not something dependant upon the service of others."

Then why do people say that there is a right to public education?

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-07-2006
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 9:30am

>>Then why do people say that there is a right to public education?


If they do, I would say it's because they are wrong.

iVillage Member
Registered: 10-25-2006
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 9:38am

Good question!

And what about the second amendment, the right to keep and bear arms? We have to pay for those, too.

Perhaps those who think, "if we pay for something it's not a right", believe that the government should hand out guns to every household.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-07-2006
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 9:47am

>>And what about the second amendment, the right to keep and bear arms? We have to pay for those, too.


I think you're confusing the right to "bear" arms with the right to "receive" arms.

Community Leader
Registered: 09-14-1997
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 12:14pm

Where a State has undertaken to provide an opportunity for an education in its public schools, such an opportunity is a right which must be made available to all on equal terms....Supreme Court Brown v Board of Ed

United Nations' Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), adopted in 1948:

"Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit. …" (Article 26)

“Education is a fundamental civil right,” said former President George W. Bush. http://georgewbushinstitute.com/category/education-policy/

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-07-2006
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:26pm

Not sure why you provided this info.

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-14-2010
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:51pm

"we all have the inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Since health care is necessary to what we all hold to be a normal length of life, I'd say that it falls under that first right. "


Imposing socialized healthcare shows no signs of improving the 'right to life' but it's been clearly shown

iVillage Member
Registered: 08-14-2010
Fri, 08-20-2010 - 1:53pm
OOoops. I shoulda read ahead.

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