Did anyone see Dr. Phil show yesterday?

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Did anyone see Dr. Phil show yesterday?
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Tue, 01-13-2004 - 12:01pm
I was home, for a change, and happened to catch it. The radio personality has lost 88 lbs since September 15, and Thomas has lost 67 lbs. The young woman who lost both her sisters in the auto accident is back on track too, has lost a huge amount of weight since Sept 15 and will be in a South Beach bikini contest in March. Even that dark haired woman (forgot her name) who weighed so much over 300lbs and wimpered and *blamed the world* for her problems, said Phil was *her last resort* (attempted guilt tripping the guy, how foolish is that), even that woman....ANGELA...is finding that she only has one chin, not 6 or 7!! A viewer, someone without benefit of gym or anything but her own free will, has lost 69 lbs since the end of September.

So, how far have you guys come in 3-4 months? Have you lost somewhere between 88 and 68 lbs, or are you just diddling around here? It's do-able, but you have to understand that it's no one's fault but your own for the state your body is in. And it will be entirely up to you to change it.

So the doctor on the program said Thomas had probably added 5 years to his life, by taking off the weight and improving his general health. By taking charge of his lifestyle. Sure beats being in a coffin 5 years too soon, all because you don't *choose to* control the fork, and get out there and get some exercise.

If you have been *dieting* since September, and can't honestly look at the scale and see that you've taken off at least 15 lbs every month in that timeframe, or at least 60 lbs total since September 13 (this being January 13 so 4 months x15 lbs= 60 lbs) then all you're doing is playing games, and fooling no one but yourselves.

So which is it? Success, or failure??

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Wed, 01-14-2004 - 11:17am
I feel sorry for the regular (true) posters on this board, who have to deal with dim bulbs like this one...

"So, how far have you guys come in 3-4 months? Have you lost somewhere between 88 and 68 lbs, or are you just diddling around here? It's do-able..."

Yeah, it's do-able, but it is also UNHEALTHY. Talk to a REAL physician, or certified nutritionist, and they will tell you that a healthy rate of weight loss is 1/2 to 2 pounds a week. That would put the maximum healthy weight loss for 3-4 months at 24 to 32 pounds at the most. Drop any faster than that without the supervision of a physician and the appropriate supplements to correct any electrolyte imbalances that occur from extreme rapid weight loss and you might be fitting into a casket sooner than you would like.

For the regular posters here, keep up the good work--it's a hard battle to lose weight, but one you will win--don't let another's uneducated opinion get you down!

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Wed, 01-14-2004 - 5:33pm
Hi Steph!
 
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Thu, 01-15-2004 - 12:10pm
I think I'll join the other lurkers by also putting my two cents in on this issue.

ambrosia_pine, you obviously hold yourself in very high esteem. What you fail to understand is that your posts are worthless on a board such as this because your intention is to be blatantly hostile and insulting. That may be appropriate on the debate boards you frequent, but not on a support board such as this one.

Maybe you simply don't understand the meaning of "support". The following should help.

SUPPORT: to give active help and encouragement; to be present and give encouragement; give assistance or comfort to somebody in difficulty or distress; help in times of crisis.

SUPPORT: the encouragement and help somebody gets from others, for example, friends, family, and charitable organizations, especially during times of crisis and change. It may be emotional, moral, or practical.

A SUPPORTIVE PERSON: somebody who provides assistance, money, encouragement, or comfort.

Nothing you have posted on this board resembles those definitions. So what is your reason for posting such drivel on this board? Boredom, narcissism, childishness?

Your posts serve as a reminder to those who come here for the right reasons to always be on their guard. Trolls are trolls. Their names may change, but the putrid smell of their posts always gives them away.

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Thu, 01-15-2004 - 12:50pm
VERY good post =)

  Shawna-- Proud Cl for 100 Pounds or More to Go 

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Thu, 01-15-2004 - 1:22pm
I have to put my thoughts into the mix ya'll.

I really don't like the pointing of the finger here. The phrase calling the kettle black comes to mind. There are many people who are overweight medically, as I am. And believe me it's not my fault. I also don't like the glorification of trendy diets or the admonishment of those who eat because they are hurt or depressed. Food can be just as addicting as drugs or drink. Overall, I don't appreciate or like pompous people who sit on their high horse and pass judgement on those that are trying. Jumping off the soap box.

Ladies, we need to lose in a healthy manner that stays with us through the next decade to come. We also need to remember to love ourselves no matter if we are a size 2 or 22. Some of us were made to be a size 2, 12, or even a 22. We were not all made to be skinny, but we were all made to love who we are.

Personally, my body is God's temple and I have asked myself if I have His temple as clean and as pretty as He planned for it.

Supporting and soap boxish at times...

K

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Tue, 01-20-2004 - 4:34pm
"There are many people who are overweight medically, as I am."

NO ONE is overweight "medically." Anyone who is overweight is that way because he or she eats more calories than the body needs to maintain normal weight. It's really that simple. Take in fewer calories, lose the weight. As long as you CHOOSE to blame "forces" outside your control, then you have an excuse for living out of control, for being fat. Why do that to yourself? The first step in getting back into shape is owning your problem, and then taking care of it.
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Tue, 01-20-2004 - 4:36pm
I've caught the show every once in awhile, and I think that I know which program you mean (I'm late to the party here). Yes, I've been very impressed with the weight loss of those people on Phil's program, and their personal(ity) changes as well. They are doing great. And I agree with your post, too.
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Tue, 01-20-2004 - 10:50pm
Okay, I have to respond to this. I AM overweight medically. I have severe hypothyroidism to the point that my thyroid has all but quit working. According to what I eat, I SHOULD be losing 2 pounds per week; yet I am losing nothing. In fact I am lucky not to gain. While it is true that you will lose weight taking in less calories, it's quite hard to only eat 1000 calories per day when you weigh 300 pounds in order to lose weight. I think you need to be quiet and respond when you actually have something positive to say...and when you actually know what you're talking about. Until my doctors figure out what to do with my thyroid (whether to remove it or not), I will be lucky not to gain weight. Oh, and that, I would say, is medical.

~Shannon

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Wed, 01-21-2004 - 10:48am

Good girl!!!!

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Thu, 01-22-2004 - 12:50am
I too have been a lurker on several weightloss boards... still trying to find my way and trying to find a plan that works for me.

Amen sisters! (brothers too if you're out there!)

How dare someone that is not even willing to get to know anyone else around here throw around spite and hatefullness! Lurkers or not, if we're around this neck of the woods we're all in the same boat - 100lbs or more to lose! How we got here is irrelevant, but we'll always stick together to keep out people like that who want to make the road harder than it is.

I don't even need to go all the way through all these posts to know that this kind of attitude not only hurts, but infuriates those of us who struggle with these issues. I'm sure we all agree that there are better ways to get your point across - or, like my dear old Granny always said, "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything!" and yes, typing/speaking are interchangable.

Play nice or don't expect anyone to even CONSIDER your point of view!

Sheila

PS - I may be a lurker, but I'll happily give my name and my profile is filled out too! :)