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| Tue, 04-20-2004 - 6:52pm |
I've lurked for a while. I'm really not so sure what all this "troll" business has been about. It seems to me that we all are entitled to our own free speech. I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but I think it goes too far. I'd like to come here for support and advice from ALL types of people, and hopefully none of you will decide to label me a troll.
I think some of Forte's messages have been dismissed out of hand in spite of holding good advice or support, because some people have decided she is "troll"ish. I would like help from anywhere I can get it.
I don't mean to sound like anyone's mother. I just hope I get some positive responses, and some helpful ideas on how to lose a large amount of weight. Thanks!
Abby

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Another lurker here who has to pop in and agree with you. It's so foolish, really, to see these guys run around labeling other posters "troll"ish when the only bad behavior is that of the accusers. Did you catch what cookbooks Forte was talking about in another post? I'd like to know (Forte, if you're listening??) because I'm finding her posts good too, and maybe something she's found and used could help me out. Nice meeting you, Abby. Don't let the bandersnatches scare you away, or you either Forte and others. I don't know why ivillage doesn't remove the name-callers. On other boards the CMs don't put up with anyone calling someone else "troll" or other names, and it really gets in the way here of anything called "support."
"I'd like to come here for support and advice from ALL types of people, and hopefully none of you will decide to label me a troll." Boy, am I WITH YOU on that!!!
Kinja
I think some people's posts have gone too far. I don't like all the discord. I don't want to create more, either.
I didn't hear about the cookbooks. What were they?
Are you dieting as well? Following any particular path with that? I've mostly been trying to take a walk when I can, and eating better, and drinking water instead of cola and coffee. It's amazing how many calories I've been able to cut between beverages and not snacking. When I last met with my dr. we were both happy with the progress so far, but I haven't been losing as rapidly for the last three weeks.
Hoping to hear from you again.
Abby
Enough with the name calling! Let's get back to support!!
nahganom
Hi there Abby and welcome to the boards!
Shawna
http://pages.ivillage.com/voxpopulli/
Nice meeting both of you. About cookbooks. I think I said at one time (okay, maybe more than one time) that one of the most beneficial things I did for myself was spend some time browsing cookbooks in the library and at Barnes & Noble, Books a Million, etc, in search of some new *tricks* vis cooking in tune with my decision to live a healthier lifestyle. There are all kinds of *goodies* out there, but I think the ones Kinja was referring to me as mentioning here were Kathleen Daelemans (which I think was titled Cooking Thin, and she has a new one just published in March but I haven't seen that one yet). Also Cary Neff, the head chef at a fancy spa in Arizona, wrote a really good one (a little pricey though) called Conscious Cuisine. And then there's a husband and wife team out of Gig Harbor, Washington (I think his name is Piscatello, it starts with a P and I bought his book so I can check if you're interested) and the title of that book is Heart Healthy Cookbook (he's the only non-doctor endorsed by American Heart Association, American Dietetics Association and that book is a compiling of recipes which his wife created after he had a triple bypass at age 32....it's excellent, hardbound and I think I paid less than $15. at Sams Club for it). I'm not on anyone else's diet *plan* (not Dr. Phil) but he has a new book out (the second) which essentially has a lot of meal plans, calorie counter, and recipes in it and some of that is very good too.
Anyway, Kathleen Daelemans is executive chef at a health spa in Hawaii and she's a very slim size 4 nowadays, but she was morbidly obese and lost all that weight (75 lbs) when she took the job probably 15 years ago (the book says 12 years, but given it's publication date). You can also see her on Cooking Thin, a program on cable cooking channel. Her recipes are excellent, but the one criticism I have of her book (the first one) is that she doesn't give nutrition breakdown information (how many calories etc) and, sure, you can figure those yourself but for a healthy *lean* cookbook, I'd expect that information provided.
As I said, the heart cookbook (and I understand the author has others, but this is the first I've seen) was put together by a husband and wife team, very well respected in the medical community, after the man had health problems and needed to make life changes. The recipes are very do-able, and full nutrition information is provided with each one. I really like this one, and it's probably my favorite recent book purchase.
Cary Neff is great! His cookbook is kinda fancy-smanchy though, and so someone who doesn't want to fool around with cooking probably wouldn't want to shell out for a book which was expensive (I love everything I've tried in it though, and he gives full nutrition info).
Abby, you're post wasn't addressed to me here (though your first post certainly took up for me, and for that I thank you). Do you mind if I answer some of the questions you asked Kinja, so you can get a chance to know me too? Here I go, assuming that's fine by you.
I haven't followed any diet *plan* but like you I have enjoyed walking and, in fact, as soon as I spend a little time on the computer today (probably an hour), I'll probably spend the next two hours this afternoon on a long nature walk. Not speed walking or anything, but just enjoying the day...and that seems to work for me.
When I decided to lose weight, it was really more of a conscious decision to take better care of myself generally. And to that end, I approached it as a kind of personal *research project.* That's why I started reading about good nutrition, changing my *evil ways,* and learning some new tricks. It's worked, and I've lost a lot of weight and kept it off. But rather than focusing on *dieting* it's just been a decision to take better care of myself, and to enjoy each day doing it. So it's a kind of fun journey, from my perspective. I like an occasional diet cola (I know, I know) and one cup of morning coffee. But other than that, I've tried to shed my vices.
I'm glad your doctor and you have both been pleased with your progress so far, Abby. And to both Abby and Kinja, I'm glad to hear from a couple friendly faces (for a change). Some of the antics here, well, as you say Abby "have gone too far" but I try to ignore such conduct as best I can.
Hoping to hear from you two again, too.
Forte
Nice meeting you. I answered your question about cookbooks under one of Abby's posts in this thread, and I hope it helps. It's basically, taking an occasional afternoon with maybe a plain iced coffee or mineral water at my local bookstores, maybe Barnes and Noble, and curling up with some good cookbooks that catch my eye. So far my favorite new(er) purchases are those I listed by Cary Neff (Conscious Cousine), Kathleen Daelemans, The Healthy Heart Cookbook (authors name starts with P, on best seller list), and even Dr. Phil's paperback (I'm not on his diet) which lists foods and calories, and recipes and menus (the second book he put out on dieting, not the first). I hope that helps.
Very nice meeting you. Thanks.
Forte
I just wanted to say welcome to both of you. Let me know if I can support you in anyway. As crazy as it gets around here we are all in the same boat so to speak and there is a lot of good support and advice. sharla
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