New around here, BUT...

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Registered: 04-20-2004
New around here, BUT...
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Tue, 04-20-2004 - 6:52pm
I've lurked for a while. I'm really not so sure what all this "troll" business has been about. It seems to me that we all are entitled to our own free speech. I don't want to ruffle anyone's feathers, but I think it goes too far. I'd like to come here for support and advice from ALL types of people, and hopefully none of you will decide to label me a troll.

I think some of Forte's messages have been dismissed out of hand in spite of holding good advice or support, because some people have decided she is "troll"ish. I would like help from anywhere I can get it.

I don't mean to sound like anyone's mother. I just hope I get some positive responses, and some helpful ideas on how to lose a large amount of weight. Thanks!

Abby

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Registered: 04-14-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 5:27pm
Actually phonetically it's my initials, I.V. (Irene Victoria), but I like Ivy better, lol!
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Registered: 12-02-2003
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 5:33pm
I think it's pretty...

my cousin married a woman named Ivy last weekend.

But I like Victoria too. Irene was my exMIL. I have deepscars from that name....

LOL!

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Registered: 03-20-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:14pm
Nahganom, I agree with everything you're saying and with Kinja and Abby too. The first time I posted on this particular board it was in defense of 2-3 other "newbies" (I think they were relatively new) and they were being called "troll" by this same group of regulars, and one of their friends was attacking "trolls" for eating granola for breakfast! As ridiculous as that sounds, that's how I got drawn in by telling the regulars to knock it off! Immediately, I too became a "troll." I think it's a shame that some people have to act so territorial about "their" board and make it difficult for others to feel comfortable posting. I've tried to not let it get to me, to post occasionally here, and to (as my mother would say) "rise above it" but it often puzzles me why ivillage would let these regulars get away with the name calling and general nastiness.

I'm afraid there's no "history" with me here, since I'm not here daily and the number under my name (if there is one?) will give you how many posts, hence an idea of how long, I've been the center of their "troll hunt." But I agree, that whatever is bugging these folks they should just grow up and let it go. If Kinja is still reading, come back and post. This kind of thing should have ended in high school, in fact most kids in high school are too mature to run around attacking "trolls." If we could just post about dieting, or food and lifestyle changes, and work together with ideas for getting in control of our health (an important issue all by itself), I bet once those goals are reached none of this "troll" labeling stupidity would matter much to anyone. I don't think the "trolls" are eating some of these regulars on a warpath. I think it's far closer to home, and what's really wrong has more to do with self image, self control (or lack of same), and how to get the pieces of life put back together into an image of themselves they really want to live with. You're right, it's frustrating when people come here and have honest outright opinions and speak their mind they are labeled troll. And it's pretty plain that it's frustrating for "lurkers" to put up with this nonsense from the sidelines too. It benefits no one, not even the regulars so inclined, to not let it go. I join you, nahganom: "How about we all grow up and let it go."

(And Kinja, post again and don't let this get to you.)

Nice meeting you too, Nahganom.

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Registered: 03-20-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:23pm
Lots of people lurk, Shawna. Please don't start in on her too. Welcome the lurkers, could you? She's right, and will you please stop it

You know it amounts to nothing more than flailing about and making newcomers miserable on this board and whatever your problem is it has nothing to do with me or this latest new poster or any of the others who have been attacked by you on this board

Just stop it and concentrate on what this board (according to its title) is supposed to be about>>>>losing weight and getting fit

forte

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Registered: 03-20-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:30pm
Has it ever occurred to you that there is no troll? what I am seeing here are a few new posters or lurkers who have had enough

Perhaps you could ask ivillage TOS folks to check IP addresses for you, just to ease your mind, and they could no doubt confirm that none of "us" are writing from the same computer, probably not even from the same States. And yes, it is getting rather old. How can ANYONE on this board (from lurkdom or not) speak honestly and tell you guys to knock it off without being called a "troll?" I mean, as an adult, how can some of you regulars look at yourselves in the mirror after being so nasty, day after day to people you don't even know.

How about it. Get it confirmed, however you will, that this person is not me, is not Abby, is not who ever the other names are that you guys have been so concerned about. And once you get it confirmed, straighten up and stop attacking new posters on this board. For Christ sake, enough is enough. Grow up and knock it off. It really, really, REALLY is OLD.

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Registered: 03-20-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:34pm
I'm not a troll either, and I too prefer to go by my screen name, whether that's all right with "ya'll" or not.
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Registered: 04-20-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:38pm
Kinja and Forte,

Hi. Sorry I've been so long in getting back to this board. I've been tied up at work the last few days. Nice to meet you both!

I am going to look into some of the cookbooks you mentioned, Forte. I enjoy cooking immensely and am always looking for something new to try.

May I ask how many pounds you've lost, and how fast you were able to do it? I know that's a very personal question, and I hesitate to ask given the atmosphere here at times. I know that it can be foolhardy to measure your successes against someone else's yardstick, but I firmly believe in tapping your resources where you find them. I admit, I am happy not to have "tripped anyone's trigger" on here, and I was delighted at your kind responses.

I hope to get to know you better, and cheers to your continued health and success!

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Registered: 03-20-2004
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:48pm
Hi Abby,

Wew, it's so nice to see a friendly response! Oh, after reading through this thread tonight you're like a breath of fresh air.

Sure you can ask how much weight I've lost, though I admit to stopping to think about it for a minute. It's about 142 lbs, give or take. And I lost anywhere from 20 lbs one months (at the beginning) to 15 lbs, to 12 lbs, to 8 or even 6 (my lowest). It's an uneven process. I'm just about where I should be now, give or take just a few more pounds, and it's taken approximately a year (10 months so far but I'm guessing a year when I'm done losing weight).

I wanted to lose weight at the start, but it really was more about health for me too (I think kinja said something similar, a heart problem for her). Losing the weight has just been a pleasant by-product of changing the way I approach life generally. For instance, I don't grab and run anymore. I plan what I'm going to eat, and eat at mealtime. And, well, life is good.

We were on our way out, and my husband is getting antsy...so I have to sign off for now. But I'm looking forward to posting to you again, and getting to know you here!

Forte

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 8:54pm
Forte, whether or not you are a "troll", you ARE frequently very nasty- that certainly doesn't cause people to feel all warm and fuzzy towards you. You've made no effort to become a member of the community, having not once shared anything about yourself. In fact, since you find us all so childish and boring, WHY do you continue to post here? Clearly, there must be something about the controversy that you enjoy. You certainly aren't here to ask for advice or share your weight loss struggles with us; your only goal seems to be to give advice that is *sometimes* very sarcastic and condescending. I'm not trying to chase you off, but I sincerely wonder what it is that YOU get out of posting here that keeps you coming back. Certainly, if I was treated as badly as you claim to be, I wouldn't have any interest in sticking around - I'd find a more friendly community.
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Registered: 05-08-2003
Thu, 04-22-2004 - 9:02pm
I have stayed out of this as long as I could, but after reading this, I couldn't help but write. If you really believe we are to believe that you and pat/american pie.....etc...aren't the same, theN CHANGE YOUR STORY. If you weren't aware, they are identical to all their stories. this is old, boring, predictable and its really annoying. you think we're childish? look at your posts.,

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